Let the Spezza rumors begin

asq2 wrote:

504Heater wrote:Deal or no deal nothing. What are they offering?

I'll take one of their stud - and I mean STUD - prospects and something else to tickle my fancy.

Michalek or Mueller or Hanzel plus their first rounder.

Turris and their first rounder for me.

I'll add in Lee if needed.

Then take Schenn with the pick, and Cowen with ours.

/dream

I think Meuller is gonna be better than Turris honestly. I think you might see Jovo coming back too, to trade the salary which would work out just ifne for Ottawa.

asq2 wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:Pheonix doing that would be so stupid on their part. They are building up a nice core of young players tha are growing together.

Why on earth would they tamper with that to add a potential problem and questionable character?

If Im Ottawa, and Im being offered Mueller, a 1st, and perhaps Jovonovski to take some salary back and a player Ottawa could use, I do it!

Meuller can imidiatly step in and be the number 1 center in Ottawa as well, the kid is that good, as well as a cheap cap hit.

Something like

Lee and Spezza

for

Jovonovski, Mueller, and Pho 1st.

Ugh. Not a huge Jovo fan.

I'd rather get Turris than Mueller, too.

Of course, this is all speculation at this point. For one, I strongly doubt the availability of Turris.

I like Jovo still, he hasnt lost a step or anything like that, just in a situation where he cant really be noticed and his career has kind of stalled.

I think for an Ottawa team looking for a number 1 guy, Jovo MIGHT be able to do the job. Add him to our blueline, the Sens might be in really good shape with our goaltending. I dont think anyone will be crying about offense from the blue line, plus an additional 1st rounder.

Basically, we would add Mueller, Jovonovski, and two 1st rounders next year (assuming they make the team) for Spezza and Lee... Not bad IMO. Fair, even, makes sense, and fills some needs for the Sens.

davetherave wrote:Is it really 42? I thought JaySpez had 4 years left at 8MM each...but anyway...

Six years left, $7 million per year.

Why would we add 2 first rounders? We already have one.

Also, Phoenix fans I've talked to all say Jovo is incredibly over-rated and needs Michalek to (partially) cover his deficiencies.

He's lost some part of his game. It may not be his step, but he's not as good as he once was.

asq2 wrote:Why would we add 2 first rounders? We already have one.

Also, Phoenix fans I've talked to all say Jovo is incredibly over-rated and needs Michalek to (partially) cover his deficiencies.

He's lost some part of his game. It may not be his step, but he's not as good as he once was.

ASQ...this whole SensChirp thing re: Spezza is, it appears in the absence of any substantiation, just 'chirping' LOL.

asq2 wrote:Why would we add 2 first rounders? We already have one.

Also, Phoenix fans I've talked to all say Jovo is incredibly over-rated and needs Michalek to (partially) cover his deficiencies.

He's lost some part of his game. It may not be his step, but he's not as good as he once was.

Same fans that need offside explained to them? haha.

Seriously, Jovo was the MVP of that team in 2007/08, and last year he was alright. He made a mistake in where he signed, but he still has a lot of go.

And by the 1st rounders, I ment who the Sens would be brining in next year potentially. I included our 1st rounder as well. Anyways, I think a trade like that would help the Sens in every aspect, I still think Jovo has it, he is only 33, 34.

davetherave wrote:

asq2 wrote:Why would we add 2 first rounders? We already have one.

Also, Phoenix fans I've talked to all say Jovo is incredibly over-rated and needs Michalek to (partially) cover his deficiencies.

He's lost some part of his game. It may not be his step, but he's not as good as he once was.

ASQ...this whole SensChirp thing re: Spezza is, it appears in the absence of any substantiation, just 'chirping' LOL.

I have confidence SC much more than an Eklund or Garrioch. He's made some mistakes, but he's gotten a lot of things right. Anyway, it's all speculation.

My point was that we already have a first rounder.

asq2 wrote:

davetherave wrote:

asq2 wrote:Why would we add 2 first rounders? We already have one.

Also, Phoenix fans I've talked to all say Jovo is incredibly over-rated and needs Michalek to (partially) cover his deficiencies.

He's lost some part of his game. It may not be his step, but he's not as good as he once was.

ASQ...this whole SensChirp thing re: Spezza is, it appears in the absence of any substantiation, just 'chirping' LOL.

I have confidence SC much more than an Eklund or Garrioch. He's made some mistakes, but he's gotten a lot of things right. Anyway, it's all speculation.

My point was that we already have a first rounder.

Nobody can be as bad as Garrioch when it comes to rumours LOL

asq2 wrote:

504Heater wrote:Deal or no deal nothing. What are they offering?

I'll take one of their stud - and I mean STUD - prospects and something else to tickle my fancy.

Michalek or Mueller or Hanzel plus their first rounder.

Turris and their first rounder for me.

I'll add in Lee if needed.

Then take Schenn with the pick, and Cowen with ours.

/dream

Haha. I had intentionally left out Turris because I doubt they would even consider it. But yeah...do it up.

I think Turris is going to be a bit of a flop. He will be a decent NHLer, but he wont ever live up to the hype he had a couple years ago IMO. Its way too early to say but I dont think the kid has that "something" thats going to make him better than everyone else.

SensChirp is great. He isn't breaking much these days because there's nothing to break. But he's been right a lot - and when he says something's being talked about, generally you can pretty much take it to the bank.

Doesn't mean it's gonna happen, but there's usually something behind one of his rumours.

Neely4Life wrote:I think Turris is going to be a bit of a flop. He will be a decent NHLer, but he wont ever live up to the hype he had a couple years ago IMO. Its way too early to say but I dont think the kid has that "something" thats going to make him better than everyone else.

Yeah, I'm curious as well. First things first, he needs to add 30 pounds, then there might be a fair assessment of him. Until then, I can't see him being a 100% bonafide impact player.

504Heater wrote:SensChirp is great. He isn't breaking much these days because there's nothing to break. But he's been right a lot - and when he says something's being talked about, generally you can pretty much take it to the bank.

Doesn't mean it's gonna happen, but there's usually something behind one of his rumours.

504H--don't get me wrong. I think SC does a terrific job.

But what's the reality here? That's my point.

A guy like Lyle Richardson (Spectors Hockey) digs into these kinds of rumours and provides an informed assessment.

But hey, if it's just a question of shooting the hockey bull for fun, no worries.

I am open to trading Spezza for cap room to make a move for a Florida defenceman but we ill have a HUGE hole up the middle. I am okay taking a high end 1st or 2nd year prospect center along with a top 5 pick.

I would also talk with LA, who have a lot of cap room/prospects/picks... they are sniffing around Lecavalier, perhaps Spezza would be a plan 'b'?

Note this is pure speculation on my part. I have not heard this from a person in the know....

davetherave wrote:

504Heater wrote:SensChirp is great. He isn't breaking much these days because there's nothing to break. But he's been right a lot - and when he says something's being talked about, generally you can pretty much take it to the bank.

Doesn't mean it's gonna happen, but there's usually something behind one of his rumours.

504H--don't get me wrong. I think SC does a terrific job.

But what's the reality here? That's my point.

A guy like Lyle Richardson (Spectors Hockey) digs into these kinds of rumours and provides an informed assessment.

But hey, if it's just a question of shooting the hockey bull for fun, no worries.

I used to read Spector but I'm not a huge fan.

Anyway, he and SC perform different roles.

I agree, though, none of us really know what's going on. But that doesn't prevent speculation.

davetherave wrote:
504H--don't get me wrong. I think SC does a terrific job.

But what's the reality here? That's my point.

A guy like Lyle Richardson (Spectors Hockey) digs into these kinds of rumours and provides an informed assessment.

But hey, if it's just a question of shooting the hockey bull for fun, no worries.

I think Spector's goes at a rumour if it's at a more advanced stage. SC goes out and gets the rumour. It's tough to say how legit any of these are. Not too much probably, but it's good for convo. :D:

Neely4Life wrote:I think Turris is going to be a bit of a flop. He will be a decent NHLer, but he wont ever live up to the hype he had a couple years ago IMO. Its way too early to say but I dont think the kid has that "something" thats going to make him better than everyone else.

I dunno. I can still see him emerging as a star.

MurderOnIce wrote:I am open to trading Spezza for cap room to make a move for a Florida defenceman but we ill have a HUGE hole up the middle. I am okay taking a high end 1st or 2nd year prospect center along with a top 5 pick.

I would also talk with LA, who have a lot of cap room/prospects/picks... they are sniffing around Lecavalier, perhaps Spezza would be a plan 'b'?

Note this is pure speculation on my part. I have not heard this from a person in the know....

To be honest, if you could get that 5th pick (or is it 6th), you could get a guy that could jump up into your top 6 and make an impact I think. Plus, there are a lot of centers in the top 7. You could be back to square one, with more prospects etc. in a year or two (maybe sooner).

Risky though, I'll admit.