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Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir

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1Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:17 pm

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In a press conference today, Carbonneau told the Media, that someday, the truth will be reveiled about the problem in Montreal. Time will tell

So, what do you guys think? We all speculated that Montreal has pretty huge issue off the ice. This pretty much confirms it. Kovalev? Koivu? Kostitsyns? Price?

2Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:24 pm

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Makes the Sens locker room look like a church.

3Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:37 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:Makes the Sens locker room look like a church.

Atleast no connections to the Mob or criminals that I was aware of in Ottawa.

4Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:00 pm

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There are two issues for the Canadiens

minor one= mob affiliation for the brothers
major one= underperforming vets who are UFAs this summer and btching about ice time and making life difficult for the coach.

5Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:22 pm

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caissie_1 wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Makes the Sens locker room look like a church.

Atleast no connections to the Mob or criminals that I was aware of in Ottawa.

Uhhh, lol, I wouldnt go that far, but there is def more going on in Montreal... You can ask Blazer too, there was a certain goalie who def had some friends who were involved in organized crime.

6Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:40 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:
caissie_1 wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Makes the Sens locker room look like a church.

Atleast no connections to the Mob or criminals that I was aware of in Ottawa.

Uhhh, lol, I wouldnt go that far, but there is def more going on in Montreal... You can ask Blazer too, there was a certain goalie who def had some friends who were involved in organized crime.
I knew it, I never trusted Marc Denis Sarcasm

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Neely4Life wrote:
caissie_1 wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Makes the Sens locker room look like a church.

Atleast no connections to the Mob or criminals that I was aware of in Ottawa.

Uhhh, lol, I wouldnt go that far, but there is def more going on in Montreal... You can ask Blazer too, there was a certain goalie who def had some friends who were involved in organized crime.
I knew it, I never trusted Marc Denis Sarcasm

Thats why he has been bounced all over the NHL, him and Theodore are in it together!

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Carbo, unfortunately, continues to be in denial. Nothing about him not being able to motivate his players.

They missed the playoffs in his first year because he couldn't get them to take it to the next level.

They sputtered in the postseason last year largely because he was outcoached by Julien and Stevens.

They lost their way this season because his only solutions were to juggle lines, scowl and say his players had to work harder.

Carbo was a great player. But not an especially good coach.

Saku Koivu--who has seen Vigneault, Therrien, Julien, Gainey and Carbo go through the revolving door--was eloquent in his lack of endorsement for Carbonneau.

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People are quick to point the fingers at the players. While there is no denying there is definitely something nasty going on there, Montreal's biggest issue is that Carbonneau lost that room. From the looks of it, players have shut Gainey out as a coach as well.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. This team needs a Quinn or a Nolan. A disciplinarian as well as a inspirator. Then you start to purge the room if there are any cancers in there.

10Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:28 am

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marakh wrote:In a press conference today, Carbonneau told the Media, that someday, the truth will be reveiled about the problem in Montreal. Time will tell

So, what do you guys think? We all speculated that Montreal has pretty huge issue off the ice. This pretty much confirms it. Kovalev? Koivu? Kostitsyns? Price?
Interesting response... sounds like he's trying to spin it and deflect away from him by suggesting there is something bigger going on. That may be the case, but be pro about it man.

11Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:25 am

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Let`s be clear here though. That`s not the only thing he said. The interview lasted an hour. He also said there was a communication problem between him and the players, that he couldn't motivate them, that he couldn't get the team to play as one...

Bottom line, Carbo was fired a few games ago, Habs still playing average.

12Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:35 am

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You know, this doesn't surprise me in the least. Of course Carbo is going to deflect some of the blame and then try to redirect it at a current struggling Habs team. Now, the timing isn't perfect, but with the various news reports (and RUMORS) that all is not rosy in the Habs org and dressing room, this certainly not only gives Carbo some breathing room, but adds fire to an already burning hot topic; so Carbo has had some decent media training for starters.

As for the Habs, whether the fans want to admit it or not, Gainey took a gamble and a HUGE risk by bringing Price into the show as early and quickly as he did, and now the results are clear (while I'm sure Montreal's media certainly didn't help to assuage Carey either) and with a plethora of UFA's and RFA's, who are mostly underperforming and causing a stink, the Habs may find themselves in a mini-rebuild over this off-season and going into next year. Who'd-a-thunk-it?

As Marakh pointed out, the bottom line is Gainey fires Carbo and yet under Gainey's 'leadership,' the team continues to look lost and uninspired. PERIOD. Draw your own conclusions.

13Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:41 am

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marakh wrote:Let`s be clear here though. That`s not the only thing he said. The interview lasted an hour. He also said there was a communication problem between him and the players, that he couldn't motivate them, that he couldn't get the team to play as one...

Bottom line, Carbo was fired a few games ago, Habs still playing average.

Fair enough...do you have a link to the podcast with the interview? Carbo deserves his full say in the matter...

14Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:11 am

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No, sorry. i saw it on RDS, not the full 60 minutes but a good long enough summary.

15Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Empty Re: Guy Carbonneau: la vérité va sortir Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:30 am

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Neely4Life wrote:
caissie_1 wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Makes the Sens locker room look like a church.

Atleast no connections to the Mob or criminals that I was aware of in Ottawa.

Uhhh, lol, I wouldnt go that far, but there is def more going on in Montreal... You can ask Blazer too, there was a certain goalie who def had some friends who were involved in organized crime.

oh yes, Mr. Theodore I am assuming you are talking about, that pretty much drove him out of town, or he asked to get out, not sure which one, but he needed to get out of Montreal.

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