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GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Nashville Predators - 8:00pm ET - Mon. Feb. 16th, 2009

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davetherave wrote:Cash, no disrespect meant to the Sens of course, and sorry to see you take it that way.

The Preds are only in their tenth season. The Senators are in their sixteenth.

Their parallel histories are interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville_Predators_seasons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ottawa_Senators_seasons

Nashville's first round playoff opponents for the last four years have been the number one teams in the West: the Red Wings and the Sharks, both powerhouses. The Preds have hung tough every time, just overwhelmed by superior talent.

IMHO there are things that can be learned from how the Preds have built their team with a small budget, and in the face of having to trade key players to reduce salary.

David Poile has chosen stability and efficiency as the hallmarks of his approach. Barry Trotz is an outstanding motivator.


Bryan Murray, on the other hand, has an open chequebook from Eugene Melnyk, and the liberty of changing bench bosses as he sees fit. In his first two seasons, his team has gone from Cup finalist to bottom five.

IMHO there are some interesting points of comparison.

Make sense?

There's no argument here...just presenting you with a different point of view and interested in your response.

Should be a good game tonight.

Trotz Vs Clouston's a good matchup.
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I see what you're saying, Dave, and you make some interesting points; but I think it would be more logical to compare The Preds of today to the Sens of 2000 - our 4th straight playoff season.

The part I've bolded is absolutely fair, but - again - I'm just not sure how relevant it is to the way our team has (and will) conduct business.

Mainly, I just don't think any comparison between the two can be used to condemn the action/non-action of Bryan Murray. Murray has not had enough time on the job to be judged reasonably. Given his own respective limitations as GM of this organization (including cleaning up a dressing room, resurrecting a farm team, navigating a Cap in an attempt to stay competitive while securing the future) I think Bryan Murray has done an excellent job as GM and I'm not sure I or anyone else could have done any better.

PTFlea


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davetherave wrote:

Well, my answer is that I'd rather have Shea Weber than Jason Spezza... Wink

Absolutely. Now imagine having Weber and Spezza (or someone of the equivalent). But there's zero chance of that ever happening the way the Preds operate.

Cronie


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oh damnit Heater... Weber AND Spezza?!?! I'm drooling!!

Hockeyhero22000

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how horrible is this i went to atdhe.com to get away from pierre and they are streaming tsn so i still have to deal with pierre

PTFlea

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Hockeyhero22000 wrote:how horrible is this i went to atdhe.com to get away from pierre and they are streaming tsn so i still have to deal with pierre

Hahahahah.

PTFlea

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Cronenbergfan wrote:oh damnit Heater... Weber AND Spezza?!?! I'm drooling!!

Tell me about it!

If we do end up trading Heatley (not sure if that's a great idea), can we please get one of these young awesome D-men? Please! Although, I guess patience would be the best route with Karlsson and hopefully Wiercioch coming.

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Heater for Weber straight up. Does Poile bite?

Cronie

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honestly dude, the more I've been asking around and such, as it stands right now, Murray has 0 plans of moving heater.

Now, that's not taking into consideration the possibility that heater may ASK to be moved, because apparently he may not be a big fan of the media, but again, that's purely speculation.

PKC

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Let's talk about the game.

shabbs

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Let's get it ON!!!!!

Cronie

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WOO HOO!!

shabbs

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Lee's first pass is a turnover that almost costs us.

PKC

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To the powerplay. Time to set the tone.

shabbs

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PKC wrote:To the powerplay. Time to set the tone.
This PP is horrid.

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504 tell me how sick you are of seeing Kuba *try* to run a powerplay.

shabbs

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cash wrote:504 tell me how sick you are of seeing Kuba *try* to run a powerplay.
We need a real PP QB.

PTFlea

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cash wrote:504 tell me how sick you are of seeing Kuba *try* to run a powerplay.

You don't even want to know... :x

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504Heater wrote:
cash wrote:504 tell me how sick you are of seeing Kuba *try* to run a powerplay.

You don't even want to know... :x
Trust me dude: I know. Wink Crying

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