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16Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:36 pm

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Cole would be ideal for line 2. Cost though. We need to revamp our D.

17Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:40 pm

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MurderOnIce wrote:
cash wrote:Putting Regin on the 4th line is like putting E.Karlsson (who I'm pretty sure will also be here) in the bottom pairing - Its pointless. Regin needs to be in the top-6.
Also, if Alfie carries over his play from this season into next season, then he belongs on the second line. Obviously the issue there is who fills his spot and I'm not sure I have an answer...
If I could take every available player this organization has (plus Cole from Edm) and just piece together the lineup I like best, it would look something like this:

Heatley-Spezza-Fisher
Vermette/Zubov-Regin-Alfredsson
Cole-Foligno-Winchester
Ruutu-Bass-Donovan

Obviously I would love to see Cole in a Sens uni and I think there's some real solid balance between those lines. The only thing I'm not sure of is the 4th line.
I don't know if Bass really has a place on this team and I really want to keep McAmmond because I'm convinced he has 2-3 good years left in him. I also don't know if I even want Donovan and Ruutu on the team over some of the other potential 4th liners.

Defence:
Phillips-Lee
Volchenkov-E.Karlsson
Schubert-Picard

Kuba and Smith should be sold at the deadline (assuming the obvious: We'll be sellers) and Bell should definitely not be re-signed.
First callups would be M.Karlsson and maybe Wiercioch, who will hopefully be in Bingo.

Gaoltending is already set.

Cole... Cole... are you SF56? haha. I miss that weird little dude from HB although he hated me something fierce. I wonder if he commented on Ek-clowns rumour? I didn't look. Chances are if he saw it he wet his little man pants....

your a moreone you dont know what your talking about because Eric Cole is the best player in the NHL and i think Brian Murray will trade him for Spezza because Spezza makes turnovers and Eric Cole is the greatest player in the NHL and since you dont think so your a moreon

18Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:42 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
cash wrote:Thanks. Yeah I'm not 100% sold on him being here, but I just don't see Murray making a move for a legitimate PMD when we've got Karlsson waiting in the wings. Also, I don't think Melnyk is patient enough to wait it out and I think Murray knows that.
If Enstrom can play in this league; Karlsson can too.

I think there's room for E. Karlsson, Lee, Picard AND a stud PMD don't you? Do you think even if Karlsson can play next year that he'll be a #1 or #2 Stud PMD? That's what we need and that Stud can Mentor guys like Karlsson, Lee and Picard. Imagine a D like below (I'm using Jay Bo just for example purposes)

Phillips Jay Bo

Volchie Lee

Smith Picard

Year after that you move Smith out and Karlsson gets eased in on the bottom pair with second unit PP time. Eventually you move Picard in a trade and have this:

E. Karlsson Jay Bo

Volchie Lee

Phillips ??
I hear you. Thats definitely a valid point. The problem with J.Bo is he's too big of a commitment (Imo). His dollars alone are a big problem for a team like ours with this kind of salary structure. I would actually really like Karlsson to learn from a guy like Kaberle or Schneider. If we could get one of them to mentor him on the transition/offensive/QBing side of the game, coupled with Phillips, Volchie and maybe even Smith mentoring him on the defensive side, then he would have the best of both worlds.

19Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:48 pm

PTFlea

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
cash wrote:Thanks. Yeah I'm not 100% sold on him being here, but I just don't see Murray making a move for a legitimate PMD when we've got Karlsson waiting in the wings. Also, I don't think Melnyk is patient enough to wait it out and I think Murray knows that.
If Enstrom can play in this league; Karlsson can too.

I think there's room for E. Karlsson, Lee, Picard AND a stud PMD don't you? Do you think even if Karlsson can play next year that he'll be a #1 or #2 Stud PMD? That's what we need and that Stud can Mentor guys like Karlsson, Lee and Picard. Imagine a D like below (I'm using Jay Bo just for example purposes)

Phillips Jay Bo

Volchie Lee

Smith Picard

Year after that you move Smith out and Karlsson gets eased in on the bottom pair with second unit PP time. Eventually you move Picard in a trade and have this:

E. Karlsson Jay Bo

Volchie Lee

Phillips ??

I dare you to put Karlsson on a 3rd pairing. :D We'd be picking his guts up with a shovel and a bucket.

3rd pairings go out against the 'energy' lines - so 3rd and 4th liners. 220+ pound guys who's sole purpose in the NHL is to hit. Hard.

If Karlsson plays (he won't), it would have to be on the top pairing with a newly acquired Bouwmeester (we won't get him).

20Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:19 pm

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Mojo wrote:
MurderOnIce wrote:
cash wrote:Putting Regin on the 4th line is like putting E.Karlsson (who I'm pretty sure will also be here) in the bottom pairing - Its pointless. Regin needs to be in the top-6.
Also, if Alfie carries over his play from this season into next season, then he belongs on the second line. Obviously the issue there is who fills his spot and I'm not sure I have an answer...
If I could take every available player this organization has (plus Cole from Edm) and just piece together the lineup I like best, it would look something like this:

Heatley-Spezza-Fisher
Vermette/Zubov-Regin-Alfredsson
Cole-Foligno-Winchester
Ruutu-Bass-Donovan

Obviously I would love to see Cole in a Sens uni and I think there's some real solid balance between those lines. The only thing I'm not sure of is the 4th line.
I don't know if Bass really has a place on this team and I really want to keep McAmmond because I'm convinced he has 2-3 good years left in him. I also don't know if I even want Donovan and Ruutu on the team over some of the other potential 4th liners.

Defence:
Phillips-Lee
Volchenkov-E.Karlsson
Schubert-Picard

Kuba and Smith should be sold at the deadline (assuming the obvious: We'll be sellers) and Bell should definitely not be re-signed.
First callups would be M.Karlsson and maybe Wiercioch, who will hopefully be in Bingo.

Gaoltending is already set.

Cole... Cole... are you SF56? haha. I miss that weird little dude from HB although he hated me something fierce. I wonder if he commented on Ek-clowns rumour? I didn't look. Chances are if he saw it he wet his little man pants....

your a moreone you dont know what your talking about because Eric Cole is the best player in the NHL and i think Brian Murray will trade him for Spezza because Spezza makes turnovers and Eric Cole is the greatest player in the NHL and since you dont think so your a moreon

Classic. Love it. I think he briefly had a little man crush on Taylor Pyatt at the end there. That is before he got sent to the RO for painting himself with peanut butter then asking people if they would eat chocolate chips from his belly button and call him Reese Piece Witherspoon.

21Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:48 pm

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:lol!:

22Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:23 am

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Tim Murray is on Over the edge, and from what I understand, their top priority on the trade deadline is to look for a trade involving a young signed player that will improve the team for the future. He also pointed that trading our 1st round pick is a possibility if they can find a trade that could get us that kind of player.

23Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:26 am

Cap'n Clutch

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cash wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
cash wrote:Thanks. Yeah I'm not 100% sold on him being here, but I just don't see Murray making a move for a legitimate PMD when we've got Karlsson waiting in the wings. Also, I don't think Melnyk is patient enough to wait it out and I think Murray knows that.
If Enstrom can play in this league; Karlsson can too.

I think there's room for E. Karlsson, Lee, Picard AND a stud PMD don't you? Do you think even if Karlsson can play next year that he'll be a #1 or #2 Stud PMD? That's what we need and that Stud can Mentor guys like Karlsson, Lee and Picard. Imagine a D like below (I'm using Jay Bo just for example purposes)

Phillips Jay Bo

Volchie Lee

Smith Picard

Year after that you move Smith out and Karlsson gets eased in on the bottom pair with second unit PP time. Eventually you move Picard in a trade and have this:

E. Karlsson Jay Bo

Volchie Lee

Phillips ??
I hear you. Thats definitely a valid point. The problem with J.Bo is he's too big of a commitment (Imo). His dollars alone are a big problem for a team like ours with this kind of salary structure. I would actually really like Karlsson to learn from a guy like Kaberle or Schneider. If we could get one of them to mentor him on the transition/offensive/QBing side of the game, coupled with Phillips, Volchie and maybe even Smith mentoring him on the defensive side, then he would have the best of both worlds.

Sounds good to me. I only used Jay Bo for example purposes. A guy like Kaberle would be nice as well.


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24Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:23 pm

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cash wrote:Question: If we could get TJ Hensick out of Colorado, would you guys do it? How much would you be willing to give up for him?
No one ever answered this... Is no one else as high on Hensick as I am? He could be a monster on a 2nd line for this team Imo.

25Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:31 pm

PTFlea

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marakh wrote:Tim Murray is on Over the edge, and from what I understand, their top priority on the trade deadline is to look for a trade involving a young signed player that will improve the team for the future. He also pointed that trading our 1st round pick is a possibility if they can find a trade that could get us that kind of player.

Wow. Who the heck could that possible be? Obviously a D-man...

Huh. Can't fault the logic of getting someone who's already a stud for the 1st rounder, but you always play with fire in these instances.

26Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:32 pm

PTFlea

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cash wrote:
cash wrote:Question: If we could get TJ Hensick out of Colorado, would you guys do it? How much would you be willing to give up for him?
No one ever answered this... Is no one else as high on Hensick as I am? He could be a monster on a 2nd line for this team Imo.

He's little and his offensive upside is average at the NHL level. Why do you hold him in such high regard, perhaps I'm missing something?

27Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:49 pm

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Primarily, I just disagree with you about his upside and I think his speed and vision make him a constant threat, regardless of his size. Everything I've seen from him has been (relatively) impressive.
Like I said, though, I see him as a solid 2nd liner. I could very well be wrong and his size may keep him from ever being an impact player...I dunno.

28Sens team 09/10. - Page 2 Empty Re: Sens team 09/10. Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:40 pm

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cash wrote:Primarily, I just disagree with you about his upside and I think his speed and vision make him a constant threat, regardless of his size. Everything I've seen from him has been (relatively) impressive.
Like I said, though, I see him as a solid 2nd liner. I could very well be wrong and his size may keep him from ever being an impact player...I dunno.

I don't think Hensick is a guy COL is going to just give away. Sakic looks like he's done, and that makes Stastny their new #1 centre -- leaving a big void at #2 centre. Long-term, Hensick is the guy they're hoping will step up and become that #2.

I just don't see COL trading him for the kinds of guys we're probably winning to offer -- Vermette, Schubert, etc.

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