GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ New Jersey Devils - 7:00pm Dec. 19th, 2008

504Heater wrote:No matter what happens, it certainly appears we're headed for a top 5-10 pick now.

I've set the bar higher than that. And by higher, I mean lower. As in a higher draft pick.

504Heater wrote:No matter what happens, it certainly appears we're headed for a top 5-10 pick now.

I hope we get a better pick than that.

Especially after having watched the Canada-Sweden game.

It'd be nice to pick up Ellis at the draft in addition to a higher pick, although he might be a bit redundant with Karlsson in the system (who was terrific tonight).

By the way, I didn't watch most of the game but what happened to us being a good defensive team? Not our style?

I am so happy I opted to watch Sweden-Canada instead of the Sens game... Although everytime i changed just to check the score, my buddies would have a field day, I was watching with a Leafs fan and a Bruins fan. ugh.

So, how many new recruits do we have for Tank Nation (to borrow a Leaf term)after tonight?

Checking the standings, we're tied for 4th worst in the league.

Man, we really have to hope that Tampa gets on a winning streak, or not letting them make an offer-sheet to Meszaros is going to haunt me for a long time.

EDIT: The concern now becomes a delusional owner trying to turn the season around.

asq2 wrote:So, how many new recruits do we have for Tank Nation (to borrow a Leaf term)after tonight?

Checking the standings, we're tied for 4th worst in the league.

Man, we really have to hope that Tampa gets on a winning streak, or not letting them make an offer-sheet to Meszaros is going to haunt me for a long time.

EDIT: The concern now becomes a delusional owner trying to turn the season around.

I was on board before tonight. Getting bombed tonight should help the cause though. :D

Melnyk needs to extract his head from his rectum if he thinks there is a fix this season for this team.

Well, if I have anything positive to say it is Spezza didnt deserve that penalty in the first, he def isnt the goat tonight, it was just awful all around.

hemlock wrote:

504Heater wrote:Wow. We suck so large it isn't even a joke anymore.

I can't believe we're not getting shut out. I guess that's the big news.

On a more positive note, we are inching closer to Hedman. I gone from getting angry about losses, to not caring, to now where I want them to lose. We ought to trade some help to Tampa to assure we finish lower.

How about trying to move Spezza to Atlanta for White and their first. My only worry is that both teams would get better and rather than having 2 top 5 picks we'd wind up with two picks in the 8-12 range.

hemlock wrote:

asq2 wrote:So, how many new recruits do we have for Tank Nation (to borrow a Leaf term)after tonight?

Checking the standings, we're tied for 4th worst in the league.

Man, we really have to hope that Tampa gets on a winning streak, or not letting them make an offer-sheet to Meszaros is going to haunt me for a long time.

EDIT: The concern now becomes a delusional owner trying to turn the season around.

I was on board before tonight. Getting bombed tonight should help the cause though. :D

Melnyk needs to extract his head from his rectum if he thinks there is a fix this season for this team.

I concur. We like to have scape-goats, but this is a team-wide phenomenon.

I really don't want to see younger assets dealt for older ones.

asq2 wrote:

hemlock wrote:

asq2 wrote:So, how many new recruits do we have for Tank Nation (to borrow a Leaf term)after tonight?

Checking the standings, we're tied for 4th worst in the league.

Man, we really have to hope that Tampa gets on a winning streak, or not letting them make an offer-sheet to Meszaros is going to haunt me for a long time.

EDIT: The concern now becomes a delusional owner trying to turn the season around.

I was on board before tonight. Getting bombed tonight should help the cause though. :D

Melnyk needs to extract his head from his rectum if he thinks there is a fix this season for this team.

I concur. We like to have scape-goats, but this is a team-wide phenomenon.

I really don't want to see younger assets dealt for older ones.

Yep really no way to blame a 5-1 blowout on one guy. This whole team is Dungty.

From a Devils perspective, you have to love how Parise is developing. He's on pace for a 100+ point season now.

RobbyJ wrote:How about trying to move Spezza to Atlanta for White and their first. My only worry is that both teams would get better and rather than having 2 top 5 picks we'd wind up with two picks in the 8-12 range.

Exactly. I'd rather deal in the off-season when picks are (relatively) set. Dealing Spezza for more mid-ranged picks is poor asset management.

My proposal remains: Spezza + Lee + SJ 1st (add Vermette now, for all I care) for Bogosian, Atl's 1st and some forward.

No chance in hell is this one on Spezza.

asq2 wrote:From a Devils perspective, you have to love how Parise is developing. He's on pace for a 100+ point season now.

RobbyJ wrote:How about trying to move Spezza to Atlanta for White and their first. My only worry is that both teams would get better and rather than having 2 top 5 picks we'd wind up with two picks in the 8-12 range.

Exactly. I'd rather deal in the off-season when picks are (relatively) set. Dealing Spezza for more mid-ranged picks is poor asset management.

My proposal remains: Spezza + Lee + SJ 1st (add Vermette now, for all I care) for Bogosian, Atl's 1st and some forward.

If they wanted to trade the entire team for that, Im golden.

asq2 wrote:From a Devils perspective, you have to love how Parise is developing. He's on pace for a 100+ point season now.

RobbyJ wrote:How about trying to move Spezza to Atlanta for White and their first. My only worry is that both teams would get better and rather than having 2 top 5 picks we'd wind up with two picks in the 8-12 range.

Exactly. I'd rather deal in the off-season when picks are (relatively) set. Dealing Spezza for more mid-ranged picks is poor asset management.

My proposal remains: Spezza + Lee + SJ 1st (add Vermette now, for all I care) for Bogosian, Atl's 1st and some forward.

The reason I like the White and ATLs 1st for Spezza is that we would have 3 1st rounders in a ridiculous draft, which instantly rebuilds our prospect pool. We get cap space which can used to go after an Andy MacDonald in the summer. We would be much more balanced down the middle with our top 3 centres making what Spezza and Fisher make now.

RobbyJ wrote:The reason I like the White and ATLs 1st for Spezza is that we would have 3 1st rounders in a ridiculous draft, which instantly rebuilds our prospect pool. We get cap space which can used to go after an Andy MacDonald in the summer. We would be much more balanced down the middle with our top 3 centres making what Spezza and Fisher make now.

My proposal sacrifices a pick that shouldn't be higher than 28th over-all for a guy who was taken 3rd over-all 6 months ago.

I don't think we can look at this as a one year deal. Re-building takes time.

So I guess a rebuild is the way to go...
Only prob though, its not that game tonight that had decided it, I think after the road trip will be more correct. And I still can't see Bryan Murray dealing Spezza.

Maybe not now, but it's coming, I'm sure of it. There is no way he can afford to sit by and watch this unfold - his job security is somewhat suspect at this point, I would guess.

I like the idea of trading him to Atlanta - we need Bogosian (and the pick); if we could get Little then we would be in even better shape

IIRC - Little is projected to be a #1 centre in a year or two, but still needs to develop; that's about the time-line we need.

Acrobat wrote:Maybe not now, but it's coming, I'm sure of it. There is no way he can afford to sit by and watch this unfold - his job security is somewhat suspect at this point, I would guess.

I like the idea of trading him to Atlanta - we need Bogosian (and the pick); if we could get Little then we would be in even better shape

IIRC - Little is projected to be a #1 centre in a year or two, but still needs to develop; that's about the time-line we need.

If you could suck either of those two, along with their 1st, I would be amazed and thrilled.