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asq2 wrote:

hemlock34 wrote:

asq2 wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:Kaberle I'd be very interested in, and willing to part with SJS's first for him, plus a less significant piece, if needed, in the form of a middling prospect or a forward not named Vermette. I get the sense that, if he's moved, Kaberle is going to be less expensive than Bouwmeester.

Toskala I don't trust. If I'm giving up both 1st rounders, I want assurance, and he doesn't offer me that. Taking Gerber off our hands would be nice, but I really can't see anyone doing that favour for us. Can you imagine the crowd reaction at the ACC if Gerber were introduced as the team's new number 1? Yikes.

Kaberle has a great contract.

Bouwmeester's still largely unproven offensively, whereas Kaberle has nearly hit the 70 point mark already in his career and still has a few years ahead of him.

Agreed. Toskala. No thanks, but I'd welcome Kaberle with open arms. In addition to the skill he brings that contract is so sexy.

He'd also probably be extremely beneficial for Karlsson's development.

But I have trouble believing this for two reasons:

1) He'd cost an arm and a leg, especially for a division rival. More than what's being discussed

2) Burke isn't going to make a deal this soon. He's stated he wants to evaluate first. I doubt it's been long enough.

Nasty Nas wrote:ughhhhh why even post Ek's garbage here. Maybe posting a
discussion of whether Toskala would be a fit in Ottawa would be good
but Ek just blows smoke, we all know that.

PKC wrote:

mojo1016 wrote:I don't like any part of this proposed Ottawa Toronto rumour. I don't see how it makes any sense from Ottawa's point of view. Auld has been their best and most consistent player this year. For once, we don't need to pick up a goalie. As for using our 1st rounders, there would have to be something more significant than Kaberle coming back. No offence to him, but this draft is way too deep to use it on Kaberle. And Kaberle for Karlsson is even worse.

Think of it this way though. The additions of Kaberle and Toskala coupled with the departure of Gerber take us from a non-playoff team, to possibly one of the better teams in the Eastern conference. And we're holding on to San Jose's first round pick, and as much as I don't expect them to win 65+ games this year, there just seems to be no way that that pick is going to be any higher than a bottom 5 first round pick.

Essentially, we'd be trading Gerber (who gives a Dung), a prospect (here's where it might get dicey) and two late-first round picks for Kaberle and Toskala.

Those two would solve so many problems for us. Kaberle would give us that defenseman at a very, very sexy cap hit. Toskala could easily spell Auld for half of the remaining games this year, because face it: Auld isn't going to play 65+ games this year. He needs someone to play with him.

shabbs wrote:Kaberle and Toskala had HORRIBLE games last night in Phoenix. Yikes.

COLLAR UP wrote:Kaberle would be a nice addition for sure...but at what cost...

and...would TO actually trade within the division...probably not...

MurderOnIce wrote:

COLLAR UP wrote:Kaberle would be a nice addition for sure...but at what cost...

and...would TO actually trade within the division...probably not...

Karberle has been decent. He needs a guy on the PP with a big shot like McCabe had though to be at his best. I am not sure we have that guy. We have guys who can shoot hard and we have guys who can shoot accurately but not both at least not on the blueline.

If I was Edmonton I would be making a pitch for Kaberle. Put him with Souray and their PP would be golden.

PKC wrote:That guy on the point could be a Mike Fisher or a Dany Heatley.

MurderOnIce wrote:

Karberle has been decent. He needs a guy on the PP with a big shot like McCabe had though to be at his best. I am not sure we have that guy. We have guys who can shoot hard and we have guys who can shoot accurately but not both at least not on the blueline.

If I was Edmonton I would be making a pitch for Kaberle. Put him with Souray and their PP would be golden.

rooneypoo wrote:

MurderOnIce wrote:

Karberle has been decent. He needs a guy on the PP with a big shot like McCabe had though to be at his best. I am not sure we have that guy. We have guys who can shoot hard and we have guys who can shoot accurately but not both at least not on the blueline.

If I was Edmonton I would be making a pitch for Kaberle. Put him with Souray and their PP would be golden.

EDM already has Visnovski and Gilbert (who, it seems, is grossly underrated) to pair up with Souray. They really don't need any more offensive Ds.

Kaberle would be a great add for us. He's pretty much just what we need, and at a good salary price. If something like SJS's 1st and Lee would get it done, I'd do it. I'm just not sure if that would be enough, or if they'd really want another D coming back.

PKC wrote:Or you could always put a Kuba or an Alfredsson or a Schubert (if he ever plays). Audition roles for God sake. Anything to get Chris Phillips off of the second unit PP.