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196GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:48 am

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The early penalties by the Sens didn't help things. Not sure if they were all totally warranted but it really killed them out of the gate and led to an early goal by Armstrong. Cowen lifted Lehner's blocker by accident on one of the Leafs goals so that didn't help. Closer game than the score suggested.

Not sure what people were expecting, but I think it was a good game for the Sens. The kids did well. There were some struggles, but that's to be expected.

Karlsson led all skaters with 28:16 in ice time... Kuba was 2nd overall with 24:20.

Conboy led the forwards with 18:32 in ice time. I was surprised to see that.

Next game is Wed. vs Boston. Game is on TSN.

EDIT: My bad on the Conboy stat... ESPN had him listed as a forward...



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197GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:54 am

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shabbs wrote:The early penalties by the Sens didn't help things. Not sure if they were all totally warranted but it really killed them out of the gate and led to an early goal by Armstrong. Cowen lifted Lehner's blocker by accident on one of the Leafs goals so that didn't help. Closer game than the score suggested.

Not sure what people were expecting, but I think it was a good game for the Sens. The kids did well. There were some struggles, but that's to be expected.

Karlsson led all skaters with 28:16 in ice time... Kuba was 2nd overall with 24:20.

Conboy led the forwards with 18:32 in ice time. I was surprised to see that.

Next game is Wed. vs Boston. Game is on TSN.

Yah, I'm not too sure either... I thought it was a pretty solid game looking at both lineups and what you want to see out of a team with what? 10 rookies? The outcome of the game means nothing, it's what was done in game by guys like Filatov, Regin, and Cowen.

Thought Stone made an impression for sure. He looks like he will be an NHL player and signing a 6th rounder to an entry level contract after 1 year, I think you can call him a steal now.

198GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:55 am

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Coach MacLean sums it up pretty nicely:

MacLean said it was a good start.

“I thought it was a pretty good game. There was a lot of things we liked about it,” said MacLean. “I felt we had some self-inflicted wounds for the third and fourth (goals) that could have been avoidable.

“I thought we were a little bit tight and tentative to start the game and that’s indicative of young players. Cowen responded pretty well and Mika Zibanejad got better. Overall, it’s their first game against NHL players and it’s not unexpected to have growing pains.”

199GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:00 am

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Pretty much. That's well said. MacLean keeps things in perspective which is important here in Ottawa.

200GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:13 am

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shabbs wrote:The early penalties by the Sens didn't help things. Not sure if they were all totally warranted but it really killed them out of the gate and led to an early goal by Armstrong. Cowen lifted Lehner's blocker by accident on one of the Leafs goals so that didn't help. Closer game than the score suggested.

Not sure what people were expecting, but I think it was a good game for the Sens. The kids did well. There were some struggles, but that's to be expected.

Karlsson led all skaters with 28:16 in ice time... Kuba was 2nd overall with 24:20.

Conboy led the forwards with 18:32 in ice time. I was surprised to see that.

Next game is Wed. vs Boston. Game is on TSN.

Umm, what? He's a defenseman, isn't he?


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201GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:20 am

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wprager wrote:
shabbs wrote:The early penalties by the Sens didn't help things. Not sure if they were all totally warranted but it really killed them out of the gate and led to an early goal by Armstrong. Cowen lifted Lehner's blocker by accident on one of the Leafs goals so that didn't help. Closer game than the score suggested.

Not sure what people were expecting, but I think it was a good game for the Sens. The kids did well. There were some struggles, but that's to be expected.

Karlsson led all skaters with 28:16 in ice time... Kuba was 2nd overall with 24:20.

Conboy led the forwards with 18:32 in ice time. I was surprised to see that.

Next game is Wed. vs Boston. Game is on TSN.

Umm, what? He's a defenseman, isn't he?
HA! My bad... ESPN had him listed as a RW...

Facepalm

202GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:14 am

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Filatov was my biggest 'pleasant surprise'. He's not just fast he is "holy Dung he is damn Cussing fast".

I saw him go into the corners and battle on occasion, he doesn't do it enough but I'd say it's incorrect he totally shies away from it. Saw some good backchecking from him as well , he got called on a hook one time though Sad So again totally incorrect to say he's a one dimensional player. Hopefully they keep him and let him get adjusted and comfortable.

Seems to be a "pass first" player so I wonder if he'd really do with Spezza (who's also a pass first player).

203GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:21 am

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Hoags wrote:Filatov was my biggest 'pleasant surprise'. He's not just fast he is "holy Dung he is damn Cussing fast".

I saw him go into the corners and battle on occasion, he doesn't do it enough but I'd say it's incorrect he totally shies away from it. Saw some good backchecking from him as well , he got called on a hook one time though Sad So again totally incorrect to say he's a one dimensional player. Hopefully they keep him and let him get adjusted and comfortable.

Seems to be a "pass first" player so I wonder if he'd really do with Spezza (who's also a pass first player).

I would say Filatov is a "make the smart play" kind of player... as in if it's there he will take the shot, if it isn't he will dish. Butler is a shoot first kind of player and Spezza is a pass first, I think it might actually work all things considered but we'll see, the combo's will be all over all season.

As for going into the corners, yah he does, he doesn't when he thinks he is going to be hit though, I noticed that a few times last night. He does shy away from contact and I see why that has been a knock on him for a little while. Just needs to take a few hits and realize it's not going to kill or hurt him for the most part.

204GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:26 am

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wprager wrote:I only got to listen to the first 6-7 minutes in the car, then a bit of the post-game show. The callers seemed pretty clueless (one guy thought Stone was a little guy from the rookie tournament -- probably thinking of Petterson), so I switched that off as soon as they mentioned the final score.

So, how did they look? Were they really deserving of those penalties early on or was it home-town reffing? Not too happy with Zibanejad taking a hooking penalty on his 1st shift (maybe 2nd) -- hoping he was better the rest of the way.

So what were the keys to the Leafs victory? Reading this thread it feels like everything was fantastic for the Sens -- Cowen with two goals, Karlsson the best player on the ice, Filatov impressing with speed and getting a couple of assists, Auld was fantastic -- and so on, yet the score was 4-2 for the other guys.

Why did we lose?

Inexperience. We turned the puck over a lot in our own zone. The Leafs also had almost their full NHL roster playing.

205GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:33 am

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dennycrane wrote:Question: Why would you play any player over 28 minutes in an exhibition game?

How dare you question Paul MacLean?

206GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:35 am

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shabbs wrote:
wprager wrote:

Umm, what? He's a defenseman, isn't he?
HA! My bad... ESPN had him listed as a RW...

Facepalm

NHL.com has him at RW too.

207GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:38 am

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I was very intrigued watching Filatov last night. I thought he would be more of a goal scorer but his on-ice vision was something I was not excpecting. I think he'd be more effective on the second line as a playmaker; similar to Spezza on the top line. This leaves some questions as per my top-six:

Michalek - Spezza - Butler
Filatov - Regin - Alfredsson

We really need a second line center who can score some goals. I hope Zibanejad overtakes Regin for the 2C position; or Da Costa impresses enough in camp to crack the roster.

208GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:38 am

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I don't mind if my dazzling dangler player shies away from contact a bit. He'll stay healthy longer. All I care is that I don't have a team full of players like that (in fact, not even a line that's like that -- which is why I'm not entirely comfortable with Butler/Filatov on Spezza's wings), and that he skates hard to back check and at least get his stick in the way. He'll dig when the digging's good and that's enough -- from that kind of player. Let me add, again, that as long as we don't have a team or line full of players like that, it's OK to have a couple that are pure skill.



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209GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:39 am

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Da lil Guy wrote:Lol - Bowen flexing his racism muscle early.

GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Bowen

If not racist then he's got a serious speech impediment.

210GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:40 am

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Hoags wrote:
Da lil Guy wrote:Lol - Bowen flexing his racism muscle early.

GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Bowen

If not racist then he's got a serious speech impediment.

It's not as bad a when he called Kadri "Shawarma Boy." That was brutal.

211GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:40 am

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Regin looked good last night and he seems to have come to camp prepared this year. If they can get 60 goals or more from the 2nd line (no matter who it is) that might be good enough. Regin is capable of getting 20 but we'll see if he actually does.

212GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:43 am

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wprager wrote:I don't mind if my dazzling dangler player shies away from contact a bit. He'll stay healthy longer. All I care is that I don't have a team full of players like that (in fact, not even a line that's like that -- which is why I'm not entirely comfortable with Butler/Filatov on Spezza's wings), and that he skates hard to back check and at least get his stick in the way. He'll dig when the digging's good and that's enough -- from that kind of player. Let me add, again, that as long as we don't have a team or line full of players like that, it's OK to have a couple that are pure skill.

He will also have the puck a lot less.

It's not about going in there and hammering someone, its about not bailing on a play because a hit is coming. There is a huge difference. Expecting players to take a hit in the corner is critical to gaining possesion of the puck, so that's not a good thing.

No one is asking Filatov to be Iginla out there but avoiding a hit to make a play is a good way to lose games.

213GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto - Page 14 Empty Re: GDT - Ottawa @ Toronto Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:46 am

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wprager wrote:my dazzling dangler
Pardon?

Wink

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