GAME DAY: Montreal Canadiens @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - Tue. Dec. 8th, 2009 PLUS post game thoughts

N4L wrote:Ummm, that's actually a good point IMO. So basically, Spezza cant play a full season and actually be effective. Well, he's missed 2 game already this year.

Michallica wrote:
Just wanna keep things in perspective. Its not a lost season when we lose to a team we outplayed.

Now, can we have a kovalev depreciation thread?

Michallica wrote:hmm I think everyone may be overreacting a little bit much. I agree kovie and spezza sucked as much as our d-core last night (weak attempt by volchie on that 2on1), but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it'll be a long season. Its supposed to be tough for the sens to make it, and if they do it'll be a lower seed most likely. We're in 7th place (and 2 games in hand on the habs). I'm happy with that considering all the injuries and issues with Kovie/Spezz/Defence. Dung happens, and its the first game back from a long road trip! It's not like this hasn't happeend before, its more than expected.

Just wanna keep things in perspective. Its not a lost season when we lose to a team we outplayed.

Now, can we have a kovalev depreciation thread?

SensGirl11 wrote:

N4L wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:These recent games really tell me how badly we need Leclaire, Neil, Donovan and yes even Picard back. How much longer for these guys? I know Leclaire is due back at the end of the month but what about the rest?

Yeah, and by then we'll be out of the race completely.

WTF is wrong with Elliott? Can he not make a save anymore? Wow!

What goal was Elliotts fault last night? The 2 on 1 where one of the leagues best snippers but it off the post and in? The puck that was tipped 2 times on a on etimer from the point where he was screened? Or the goal where Elliott made the first save, got barrolled into and 4 guys just watched the guy put it in the back of the net?

As soon as Leclaire is back we will be crying about him not stealing games.

IT'S NOT THE GOALTENDING!

Sorry Neely, but this guy has been brutal lately. He's not helping the teams confidence at all.

It's not all goaltending, but it's not helping. He could be much better.

SensGirl11 wrote:

Michallica wrote:hmm I think everyone may be overreacting a little bit much. I agree kovie and spezza sucked as much as our d-core last night (weak attempt by volchie on that 2on1), but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it'll be a long season. Its supposed to be tough for the sens to make it, and if they do it'll be a lower seed most likely. We're in 7th place (and 2 games in hand on the habs). I'm happy with that considering all the injuries and issues with Kovie/Spezz/Defence. Dung happens, and its the first game back from a long road trip! It's not like this hasn't happeend before, its more than expected.

Just wanna keep things in perspective. Its not a lost season when we lose to a team we outplayed.

Now, can we have a kovalev depreciation thread?

Depreciate away, he's just terrible! I think he's homesick...

asq2 wrote:

N4L wrote:Ummm, that's actually a good point IMO. So basically, Spezza cant play a full season and actually be effective. Well, he's missed 2 game already this year.

I think you're reaching here. And technically, Alfredsson hasn't played a full season since his rookie year.

For about the seventh time, last season was a bust for everyone. Compare Alfredsson's PPG in that season and the season prior and it was the difference between 104 points and 76. That was all Hartsburg, and Spezza was hardly useless in offering 73 points, more than twice Fisher's total.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
How about on Kostitsyn last night? That was a point-blank shot from 5 feet. Should have been a goal.

Why should Elliott have to steal a game when the player in front of him can't even earn one?

hemlock wrote:+1

There are guys ( I won't bother naming names, you all know who) who are much more deserving of criticism than Elliott at this point.

N4L wrote:100% agree, it's on Elliott and Leclaire to make Ottawa a playoff team. They need all-star, rock solid, and consistant goaltending for them to even have a sniff at the playoffs.

Fact of the matter is this team needs to start over up front, in a big way. Spezza isnt an answer short term or long term and is defently a problem. Having him in Ottawa with kids is a disaster waiting to happen.

SpezDispenser wrote:

hemlock wrote:+1

There are guys ( I won't bother naming names, you all know who) who are much more deserving of criticism than Elliott at this point.

Wait, wait, wait. Don't get me wrong, I think Elliott's been doing fine - not great, not even very good, but he's been fine. He'll eventually need to crank it up a couple of notches, but I believe in him. It's very disappointing and everyone needs to be called out, but Elliot is far and away NOT the guy to blame.

And I'll name names for you: Jason Spezza and Alex Kovalev. They've been the downfall of our season and the reason we're about to leave the top 8 in the East instead of being firmly entrenched in 6th right now.

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:100% agree, it's on Elliott and Leclaire to make Ottawa a playoff team. They need all-star, rock solid, and consistant goaltending for them to even have a sniff at the playoffs.

Fact of the matter is this team needs to start over up front, in a big way. Spezza isnt an answer short term or long term and is defently a problem. Having him in Ottawa with kids is a disaster waiting to happen.

From now on you cannot call out Spezza without calling out Kovalev in the same sentence. It's the new rule. Kovalev sucks. And I've heard different 'reasons' why lately.

1.He always needs a guy crashing the net to be successful.

Dung. He was with Fisher and blew donkey.

2.He needs to have guys who can make passes on the PP to be successful.

Okay, fine, maybe I can buy into that - a little.

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:100% agree, it's on Elliott and Leclaire to make Ottawa a playoff team. They need all-star, rock solid, and consistant goaltending for them to even have a sniff at the playoffs.

Fact of the matter is this team needs to start over up front, in a big way. Spezza isnt an answer short term or long term and is defently a problem. Having him in Ottawa with kids is a disaster waiting to happen.

From now on you cannot call out Spezza without calling out Kovalev in the same sentence. It's the new rule. Kovalev sucks. And I've heard different 'reasons' why lately.

1.He always needs a guy crashing the net to be successful.

Dung. He was with Fisher and blew donkey.

2.He needs to have guys who can make passes on the PP to be successful.

Okay, fine, maybe I can buy into that - a little.

Hoags wrote:

Michallica wrote:
Just wanna keep things in perspective. Its not a lost season when we lose to a team we outplayed.

Now, can we have a kovalev depreciation thread?

I don't think we outplayed them at all. Sure we controlled the puck a lot and had a lot of shots but their defence made pretty sure those were all very low percentage plays a pee-wee goalie could stop.

This team needs to crash the net more and screen their goalie. They also need someone who can really shoot the damn puck, especially from the point.