Jonathan Cheechoo Depreciation Thread

SpezDispenser wrote:He looks pretty good actually. One of the few who actually took the puck to the net with authority. Imagine that concept.

Maybe he should coach the team for a few practices or be used as a showcase for drills or something. I dont understand how driving to the net and shooting the Diddling puck is so damn hard

You know who else takes the puck to the net? Taylor Hall.

asq2 wrote:You know who else takes the puck to the net? Taylor Hall.

I'm only half kidding when I say start really taking a look at slots...say 7 to 13 - in that area - for the best possible forwards to rebuild our woeful offence.

Hopefully we can roust a pick in the 20-23 range as well - without A-Train being dealt if possible.

Watching this game tonight the 8th overall pick came to mind to be perfectly honest. Diddle.

SpezDispenser wrote:

asq2 wrote:You know who else takes the puck to the net? Taylor Hall.

I'm only half kidding when I say start really taking a look at slots...say 7 to 13 - in that area - for the best possible forwards to rebuild our woeful offence.

Hopefully we can roust a pick in the 20-23 range as well - without A-Train being dealt if possible.

Watching this game tonight the 8th overall pick came to mind to be perfectly honest. Diddle.

BLow it up!

Almost that time.

A Train and Spezza wont be here next year

SpezDispenser wrote:

asq2 wrote:You know who else takes the puck to the net? Taylor Hall.

I'm only half kidding when I say start really taking a look at slots...say 7 to 13 - in that area - for the best possible forwards to rebuild our woeful offence.

Hopefully we can roust a pick in the 20-23 range as well - without A-Train being dealt if possible.

Watching this game tonight the 8th overall pick came to mind to be perfectly honest. Diddle.

Forwards available at 7-13?

Let's assume Hall, Seguin, Kabanov, Fowler, Granlund, Gormley and Gudbranson comprise the top-7.

Some forwards of note would then be Brett Connolly, John McFarland (I echo Neely's sentiments about the guy), Teemu Pulkkinen (who has slipped even further, actually), Tyler Toffoli, Vladimir Tarasenko and Stanislav Galiev.

It really looks like a weak year for Sweden. They may not have any first-round picks, and apart from Victor Ohman I'm not sure who to peg down as definitely in the top-2 rounds. It's a far cry from Hedman, OEL, MPS, Josefson, Runblad, Erixon, Johansson, Klingberg, Silfverberg, Lander, Lehner, Rodin and Samuelsson (plus Nilson as the first pick in the third round) in 2009 (wow!) and Karlsson, Gustafsson, Tedenby and Markstrom in 2008.

They'll rebound in 2010 with Larsson and Landeskog. But hopefully Anders Forsberg can pull some gems in the later rounds.

asq2 wrote:
Some forwards of note would then be Brett Connolly, John McFarland (I echo Neely's sentiments about the guy), Teemu Pulkkinen (who has slipped even further, actually), Tyler Toffoli, Vladimir Tarasenko and Stanislav Galiev.

Connolly might slip out of our grasp, but he has nice size for sure, same with McFarland. I wouldn't even think about Tarasenko unless he's absolutely amazing. We need size and skill.

Toffoli is good, the rest I don't know.

I know of at least one scout who feels Tarasenko should be the first over-all pick. He's not what some would call a typical Russian in terms of willingness to go to the dirty areas and work ethic.

I'm not all that convinced by McFarland. I've heard questions about his character, and his numbers aren't particularly impressive.

Connolly would definitely be a great pick, I agree. He'll go pretty high in this draft.

N4L wrote:Literally, this thread should be deleted. BS to begin with.

Only guy to show up tonight and is hard work is paying off. Thank God he wasnt taken out because Ottawa would have been blown out every single night on the west swing.

2 1/2 games? Really?!

He has played 20+ bad ones in Ottawa and two - three bad years in San Jose. String together a few weeks of hockey then call me. Everyone is so quick to kiss the a$$ of a player who has a couple good games. Cheechoo has been 'a hard worker' since he got there. That is great for a construction site, not the NHL.

If Murray got a call in the next 5 minutes that said 'If you waive Cheechoo we'll pick him up'... Murray would have the paperwork done before the handset hit the cradle.

MurderOnIce wrote:

N4L wrote:Literally, this thread should be deleted. BS to begin with.

Only guy to show up tonight and is hard work is paying off. Thank God he wasnt taken out because Ottawa would have been blown out every single night on the west swing.

2 1/2 games? Really?!

He has played 20+ bad ones in Ottawa and two - three bad years in San Jose. String together a few weeks of hockey then call me. Everyone is so quick to kiss the a$$ of a player who has a couple good games. Cheechoo has been 'a hard worker' since he got there. That is great for a construction site, not the NHL.

If Murray got a call in the next 5 minutes that said 'If you waive Cheechoo we'll pick him up'... Murray would have the paperwork done before the handset hit the cradle.

Nope, he hasnt, not even close. He's worked his a$$ of every game this season and now his production is improving because of it. He was the best player on that entire road trip out west.

This team needs a lot more hard work then it has actual tallent. He is starting to become an effective player again, thus why he never was nor should have ever been taken out of the lineup. Hard work pays off and you are seeing it.

Like I said the day this thread went up, there are about 4 or 5 guys I would sit on their asses before I would think about sitting Cheechoo.

Cheechoo hasnt been this teams worse player this year, not even close.

N4L wrote:

MurderOnIce wrote:

N4L wrote:Literally, this thread should be deleted. BS to begin with.

Only guy to show up tonight and is hard work is paying off. Thank God he wasnt taken out because Ottawa would have been blown out every single night on the west swing.

2 1/2 games? Really?!

He has played 20+ bad ones in Ottawa and two - three bad years in San Jose. String together a few weeks of hockey then call me. Everyone is so quick to kiss the a$$ of a player who has a couple good games. Cheechoo has been 'a hard worker' since he got there. That is great for a construction site, not the NHL.

If Murray got a call in the next 5 minutes that said 'If you waive Cheechoo we'll pick him up'... Murray would have the paperwork done before the handset hit the cradle.

Nope, he hasnt, not even close. He's worked his a$$ of every game this season and now his production is improving because of it. He was the best player on that entire road trip out west.

This team needs a lot more hard work then it has actual tallent. He is starting to become an effective player again, thus why he never was nor should have ever been taken out of the lineup. Hard work pays off and you are seeing it.

Like I said the day this thread went up, there are about 4 or 5 guys I would sit on their asses before I would think about sitting Cheechoo.

Cheechoo hasnt been this teams worse player this year, not even close.

Saying he has been one of the best players on the road trip is like saying he is one of the taller midgets. You can't tell me if Murray could give him away he wouldn't, he would do it in a heartbeat and you know it.

I think Cheechoo leads the team in number of posts and crossbars hit. He also has 56 shots on goal despite little PP time and 3rd/4th line minutes.

He was slow and invisible in the season so far but he always shows up and has had quite a few good chances out there (which Clouston acknowledged many times).

I don't think he will be in our top 6 for various reasons but Foligno and Shannon have been just as disappointing (if not worse) and they've gotten benched due to lack of work ethic out there.

Consistent work ethic is somewhat lacking in our top 6 when we have floaters like Kovalev, Spezza, Shannon and Foligno, so there is definately a compelling argument to be made for Cheech in the top 6.

MurderOnIce wrote:

N4L wrote:

MurderOnIce wrote:

N4L wrote:Literally, this thread should be deleted. BS to begin with.

Only guy to show up tonight and is hard work is paying off. Thank God he wasnt taken out because Ottawa would have been blown out every single night on the west swing.

2 1/2 games? Really?!

He has played 20+ bad ones in Ottawa and two - three bad years in San Jose. String together a few weeks of hockey then call me. Everyone is so quick to kiss the a$$ of a player who has a couple good games. Cheechoo has been 'a hard worker' since he got there. That is great for a construction site, not the NHL.

If Murray got a call in the next 5 minutes that said 'If you waive Cheechoo we'll pick him up'... Murray would have the paperwork done before the handset hit the cradle.

Nope, he hasnt, not even close. He's worked his a$$ of every game this season and now his production is improving because of it. He was the best player on that entire road trip out west.

This team needs a lot more hard work then it has actual tallent. He is starting to become an effective player again, thus why he never was nor should have ever been taken out of the lineup. Hard work pays off and you are seeing it.

Like I said the day this thread went up, there are about 4 or 5 guys I would sit on their asses before I would think about sitting Cheechoo.

Cheechoo hasnt been this teams worse player this year, not even close.

Saying he has been one of the best players on the road trip is like saying he is one of the taller midgets. You can't tell me if Murray could give him away he wouldn't, he would do it in a heartbeat and you know it.

Not 100% sure, I dont think I would give him away, no. No reason to.

His hard work will eventually pay off and is starting to. Taking him out of Ottawa right now would just worsen a team that is already lacking a ton of character. I actually dont think Murray would give him away to be honest.

I think Murray is a little more concerned with Spezza then he is about a throw in, in a trade who is playing well and working hard.

Hoags wrote:Cheechoo leads the team in number of posts and crossbars hit. He also has 56 shots on goal despite little PP time and 3rd/4th line minutes.

He was slow and invisible in the season so far but he always shows up and has had quite a few good chances out there (which Clouston acknowledged many times).

I don't think he will be in our top 6 for various reasons but Foligno and Shannon have been just as disappointing (if not worse) and they've gotten benched due to lack of work ethic out there.

Consistent work ethic is somewhat lacking in our top 6 when we have floaters like Kovalev, Spezza, Shannon and Foligno, so there is definately a compelling argument to be made for Cheech in the top 6.

Do you seriously think Spezza is going to say 'Look at him trying out there? Wow I should do that!'

He has been watching Alfie for 5 years.

Kovalev wouldn't change his game if God pried open the roof of SBP and shot loigtning bolts at him.

As for Shannon and Foligno, they have been sat because the coach thought it would help. Benching Cheechoo would do nothing to change the fact that the only reason he is not in the minors is because we can't afford to bury his salary.

MurderOnIce wrote:

Hoags wrote:Cheechoo leads the team in number of posts and crossbars hit. He also has 56 shots on goal despite little PP time and 3rd/4th line minutes.

He was slow and invisible in the season so far but he always shows up and has had quite a few good chances out there (which Clouston acknowledged many times).

I don't think he will be in our top 6 for various reasons but Foligno and Shannon have been just as disappointing (if not worse) and they've gotten benched due to lack of work ethic out there.

Consistent work ethic is somewhat lacking in our top 6 when we have floaters like Kovalev, Spezza, Shannon and Foligno, so there is definately a compelling argument to be made for Cheech in the top 6.

Do you seriously think Spezza is going to say 'Look at him trying out there? Wow I should do that!'

He has been watching Alfie for 5 years.

Kovalev wouldn't change his game if God pried open the roof of SBP and shot loigtning bolts at him.

As for Shannon and Foligno, they have been sat because the coach thought it would help. Benching Cheechoo would do nothing to change the fact that the only reason he is not in the minors is because we can't afford to bury his salary.

Nope, which is why Ill never complain about a guy working his a$$ off.

Cheechoo is an NHL player, not a 3 million dollar player, but an NHL player non the less. Ive had my questions about him too, but he is defently showing improvement and showing that he has more confidence then when he started the year.

Given the circumstances in Ottawa and Cheechoo personally, I would absolutely give him the year to figure out where he is. If he ends up with more goals then Spezza and Kovalev, then what? Right now he is tied with Spezza and 1 behind Kovy, both who are being piad WAY more then what Cheechoo is, and dont play with the same drive he does.

Let's leave it at this for now:

I'm finally happy with Cheechoo's game, he appears to be skating a *little* better and getting himself firmly planted in front of the net.

Point is, is that he is earning his ice time, he is starting to look like a guy who can contribute, and is a guy who has been improving consistantly all year.

Im not saying he is a top 6 forward, but on The Sens, he is no further down the depth chart then 7 of the bottom 6 guys on the team.

It's a bit puzzling why Cheechoo seems to playing better, maybe he needs more games to get into shape after all those injuries.

He seems to be more confident and assertive out there as well.