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Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again?

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61Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:13 pm

wprager


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shabbs wrote:Oh, the blog was certainly suggesting "rampant" drug use... must have been written by Watters.

Wink

When I first skimmed it I could have sworn he actually mentioned Watters by name, but reareading, this is what he said:


However, it should be noted that certain members of the traditional
media have been flapping their gums off-the-record about the Heatley
drama, and what they're saying is not far off from we've been reading
on sites like HFBoards.

It's fairly obvious for those who have been reading this stuff what he means, but other than calling it "heavy stuff" he comes nowhere near saying anything.

Is this guy a politician?

62Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:16 pm

wprager


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By the way, in heraldry "rampant" means:

Rearing on the left hind leg with the forelegs elevated, the right above the left, and usually with the head in profile.

Like this:

Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 A4rampan

63Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:17 pm

shabbs


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Too bad GMHockey.com didn't get a mention... heh heh.

64Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:18 pm

shabbs

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wprager wrote:By the way, in heraldry "rampant" means:

Rearing on the left hind leg with the forelegs elevated, the right above the left, and usually with the head in profile.

Like this:

Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 A4rampan
Keep on fluffing man... keep on fluffing...

Wink

65Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:56 pm

davetherave

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Prager>for all that 'fluffing'...a special title may be created for you by GMHockey:

"Mr. Montafluff"

Wear it well.
Wink

66Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:12 pm

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davetherave wrote:Prager>for all that 'fluffing'...a special title may be created for you by GMHockey:

"Mr. Montafluff"

Wear it well.
Wink
MR. Montawhore may be more appropriate...

HA HA HA!

67Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:48 pm

wprager

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I'll take any and all accolades you can bear to heap upon me.


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68Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:29 pm

shabbs

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wprager wrote:I'll take any and all accolades you can bear to heap upon me.
Indeed you will.

69Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:10 pm

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jawal wrote:I have been told a few things from people close to the situation, who say Heatley wants to be the man. The Sens will never be "Heatley's" team and of course, there's the fact he doesn't agree with CLouston's philosophy.

quote]

I am not close to the situation but from afar it seems as straightforward as Jamvan says. Excerpt from July 10 article in Citizen by Wayne Scanlan

"When I was in Switzerland to cover the world championship, I had a chance to speak to Heatley about the fan response he receives in Europe, especially in Switzerland, where he played briefly during the lockout. He is THE most admired Canadian player abroad ... at least he was on the recent worlds team. It's different in Ottawa. The "old guard," Heatley said, referring specifically to Alfredsson, Mike Fisher and Chris Phillips, own the town. He and Spezza hadn't been here long enough."

I'd find it a lot easier to buy this theory if the public hadn't been so quick to turn around and basically state that "This is Spezza's team now".

There is no question that the others are the leaders of the present, but every team builds for the future, and good GMs include in their calculations their considerations for who will be the leaders of the team. That's why they put out the big bucks. The contracts demonstrated the trust in Heatley and Spezza for the next 5-7 years or more. Even if Heatley didn't see that, it would have been discussed during negotiations. The "A" on Heatley's jersey would have been another step in that process.

I'll go back to the suggestion that it always comes down to one of three things - sex, drugs or money.
The latter is essentially a non-issue. The second can't be much of an issue - he was a known participant before.
The first, however, would be great justification for him to distance himself from the team so quickly, and vice versa.

70Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:24 pm

wprager

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Sex? Nah, I don't buy it. The most common reason a player wants out is that he doesn't think he is appreciated. The lack of appreciation can be expressed in reduced ice time, lower-tier line mates, reduction in responsibilities, public "flogging" and so on.

All of that happened here (I equate a demotion to the 2nd PP unit as getting lower-tier line mates).

Why are we all trying to make it more complicated than it is? When Heatley first got here I did not get a good vibe about him -- he just looked like a bit of a me0first player, a bit high on himself, and quite selfish. I admired his skill but never thought much about his drive, frankly. My opinion of him hasn't really changed all that much throughout this situation; it's just been confirmed.


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71Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? - Page 5 Empty Re: Ottawa Locker Room Fiasco... Again? Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:30 pm

shabbs

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I never got that vibe from him when he got here, nor even up to his last game... it would be nice to have it all explained one day... but we'll never know the truth. Drugs, sex, money, ego...? Who knows.

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