Ek Rumour so take it for what you will...

He will be a solid NHLer for sure, but no shot The Jackets are giving up Filatov.

rooneypoo wrote:

PKC wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I just dont see Clb being that stupid. Unless Nash is just begging for him then it will not happen.

What are you talking about? What is Voracek and Filatov's ceiling? You
have to remember, it will probably be 3 or 4 years before these guys
start hitting the numbers people expect them to. And even then, will
there be any 50 goal, 100 point seasons coming? Do these guys have that
type of skill to eventually consistently put up those seasons?

Or do the Blue Jackets go with the guaranteed results and fast track some success a bit?

Dobber puts Filatov's LTU (Long-term upside) at 100, and Voracek's at 90. Two studs in the making, for sure, but, yeah, one bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, as the saying goes.

No kidding. Damn, those guys are going to be sizzling if they reach that potential. Although at this point, that's all it is: potential. Which is what every other GM sees it as too. I'm not saying they won't reach their potential: but if you were the GM of a club in a super tough division, would you take potential or the sure thing?

Neely4Life wrote:He will be a solid NHLer for sure, but no shot The Jackets are giving up Filatov.

I would be more than happy with Voracek.

Heatley + Smith/Lee/Picard
for
Voracek + Huselius + a pick (2nd rounder?)

is a deal that makes a lot of sense for both teams. CLB gets a signed star with proven chemistry with Nash, ready to go now, plus one of Smith, Lee, or Picard (and they need at least one D right now -- Smith helps them short term, Lee/Picard long term).

OTT, meanwhile, gets a decent replacement / 2nd liner in Huselius (who I don't really like, but whatever) + a slam-dunk prospect in Voracek who is ready to play now and who looks like he will help replace Heatley's offence long terms, plus another small piece (like a 2nd rounder) in compensation for the fact that we're giving up the best player in the deal.

On paper, not a bad fit.

rooneypoo wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:He will be a solid NHLer for sure, but no shot The Jackets are giving up Filatov.

I would be more than happy with Voracek.

Heatley + Smith/Lee/Picard
for
Voracek + Huselius + a pick (2nd rounder?)

is a deal that makes a lot of sense for both teams. CLB gets a signed star with proven chemistry with Nash, ready to go now, plus one of Smith, Lee, or Picard (and they need at least one D right now -- Smith helps them short term, Lee/Picard long term).

OTT, meanwhile, gets a decent replacement / 2nd liner in Huselius (who I don't really like, but whatever) + a slam-dunk prospect in Voracek who is ready to play now and who looks like he will help replace Heatley's offence long terms, plus another small piece (like a 2nd rounder) in compensation for the fact that we're giving up the best player in the deal.

On paper, not a bad fit.

I'm all sorts of in love with that proposal. What does Clouston even do in that scenario? What will the lines look like?

Voracek - Spezza - Kovalev
Alfredsson - Fisher - Huselius
Foligno - Kelly - Shannon
Neil - Winchester - Ruutu

Extra: Donovan, Regin, Zubov

That's a lethal lineup. And I hate leaving Donovan and Regin off of the playing roster.

PKC wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

PKC wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I just dont see Clb being that stupid. Unless Nash is just begging for him then it will not happen.

What are you talking about? What is Voracek and Filatov's ceiling? You
have to remember, it will probably be 3 or 4 years before these guys
start hitting the numbers people expect them to. And even then, will
there be any 50 goal, 100 point seasons coming? Do these guys have that
type of skill to eventually consistently put up those seasons?

Or do the Blue Jackets go with the guaranteed results and fast track some success a bit?

Dobber puts Filatov's LTU (Long-term upside) at 100, and Voracek's at 90. Two studs in the making, for sure, but, yeah, one bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, as the saying goes.

No kidding. Damn, those guys are going to be sizzling if they reach that potential. Although at this point, that's all it is: potential. Which is what every other GM sees it as too. I'm not saying they won't reach their potential: but if you were the GM of a club in a super tough division, would you take potential or the sure thing?

Kilatov is about as sure a thing as you can get. It would be like trading Stamkos for Heatley. Not gonna happen.

Jordo wrote:Filatov + 1st

I am okay with that offer, where do we sign? It's way more attractive than Penner, Cogliano and Smid. If you can steal anything else, do it Murray. Mind you, hearing Murray last night on TSN, he advised nothing is new with Heatley (assuming meaning no new offers), so he is either holding his cards close to him or there is truly nothing new.