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Silly Season 2009: Free Agents and Trades--Who Goes Where?

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How Will the Summer '09 Free Agent and Trade Market Be?

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davetherave


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SensFan71 wrote:some blurbs off the Ottawa Sun, looks like Detroit has put out a substantial offer for Hossa.

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/2009/06/25/9938826.html

Waiting on Hossa
As reported yesterday, league sources say the Red Wings have offered W Marian Hossa a 10-year deal believed to be in the $62-million US range. While Hossa and his agent, Ritch Winter, are going to mull over the offer until Monday, they also have to look at how attractive Hossa is going to be as a potential unrestricted free agent. League sources say the Bruins are trying to deal either C Marc Savard or W Phil Kessel so they can clear up the cap space to sign Hossa. If they can move either player, it would also help Boston GM Peter Chiarelli become more active in pursuit of disgruntled Senators W Dany Heatley, whose wishlist of landing spots includes Boston.
Off the glass
The Panthers were fielding offers yesterday for D Jay Bouwmeester’s negotiating rights. Sources said last night that the Flames were the frontrunners ... The Ducks are expecting an answer today from D Scott Niedermayer on whether he plans on playing next season. If he decides to return, it’s believed D Chris Pronger will be dealt. The Blues have been trying to reacquire him for soon time ... If W Erik Cole doesn’t re-sign with Carolina, expect the Senators to make a pitch for him as a UFA ... The Kings were talking to San Jose about a possible deal for C Patrick Marleau.

Hmmm...the Wings want Hossa at 6.2MM per year if I read this right. Marian might want to have a look around.

shabbs


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davetherave wrote:Hmmm...the Wings want Hossa at 6.2MM per year if I read this right. Marian might want to have a look around.
Well, if he truly wants to win THE CUP, then I'd say he signs this deal as in the next 10 years, my money is on Detroit winning at least 1 Cup.

davetherave


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shabbs wrote:
davetherave wrote:Hmmm...the Wings want Hossa at 6.2MM per year if I read this right. Marian might want to have a look around.
Well, if he truly wants to win THE CUP, then I'd say he signs this deal as in the next 10 years, my money is on Detroit winning at least 1 Cup.

What's to say he wants to play 10 years, and what's to say Detroit's his best bet?

wprager

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davetherave wrote:
shabbs wrote:
davetherave wrote:Hmmm...the Wings want Hossa at 6.2MM per year if I read this right. Marian might want to have a look around.
Well, if he truly wants to win THE CUP, then I'd say he signs this deal as in the next 10 years, my money is on Detroit winning at least 1 Cup.

What's to say he wants to play 10 years, and what's to say Detroit's his best bet?

Umm, recent history.

davetherave

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wprager wrote:
davetherave wrote:
shabbs wrote:
davetherave wrote:Hmmm...the Wings want Hossa at 6.2MM per year if I read this right. Marian might want to have a look around.
Well, if he truly wants to win THE CUP, then I'd say he signs this deal as in the next 10 years, my money is on Detroit winning at least 1 Cup.

What's to say he wants to play 10 years, and what's to say Detroit's his best bet?

Umm, recent history.

Recent history...Cup winners (in order of most recent): Pittsburgh, Detroit, Anaheim, Carolina.

Is that what you meant? Wink

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davetherave wrote:
wprager wrote:
davetherave wrote:
shabbs wrote:
davetherave wrote:Hmmm...the Wings want Hossa at 6.2MM per year if I read this right. Marian might want to have a look around.
Well, if he truly wants to win THE CUP, then I'd say he signs this deal as in the next 10 years, my money is on Detroit winning at least 1 Cup.

What's to say he wants to play 10 years, and what's to say Detroit's his best bet?

Umm, recent history.

Recent history...Cup winners (in order of most recent): Pittsburgh, Detroit, Anaheim, Carolina.

Is that what you meant? Wink

4 cups from 96 to present day. that might speak volumes.

davetherave

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SF71 and Prager>you two are really stuck on this Wing thing, eh... Wink

In the last seven years (and six seasons) no team has won the Stanley Cup more than once.

So the odds of a repeat for Detroit are...

You tell me.

SensFan71


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davetherave wrote:SF71 and Prager>you two are really stuck on this Wing thing, eh... Wink

In the last seven years (and six seasons) no team has won the Stanley Cup more than once.

So the odds of a repeat for Detroit are...

You tell me.

am trying to find out the vegas odds for you, but any gambling content sites are blocked at work :^^^^:

davetherave

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SensFan71 wrote:
davetherave wrote:SF71 and Prager>you two are really stuck on this Wing thing, eh... Wink

In the last seven years (and six seasons) no team has won the Stanley Cup more than once.

So the odds of a repeat for Detroit are...

You tell me.

am trying to find out the vegas odds for you, but any gambling content sites are blocked at work :^^^^:

Hey, no problem, lemme know... :^^^^:

Meanwhile, if you'd like a prediction this weekend on next year's Stanley winner, there's a sale at Wal-Mart on the "Lucky Hockey Crystal Ball", regularly $14.95, now just $4.98 plus GST, AA batteries not included, Made In China.

But I have a feeling that Mr Hossa actually consulted Madame Zara, a gypsy fortune teller who has her shop in downtown Bratislava, with locations in Kosice, Poprad and Banka Bystrica (a very enterprising lady, Madame Zara). I visited Madame Zara once myself, and she predicted I would 'get lucky' that evening...which I did.
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I think TO would be complete idiots not to go for the kaberle/kessel deal. Kaberle is aging, plus kessel young potential 50 goal scorer fits right into their youth movement ... no brainer .... burke will pull the pin on it hands down ....

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Pierre Lebrun reports the ongoing trade chitchat from Montreal...

Day 2 draft buzz: Teams calling Detroit about Hossa; latest on Sedin twins, Khabibulin

Pierre Lebrun, ESPN.com/June 27, 2009

MONTREAL -- The Detroit Red Wings got a query or two this weekend from other teams looking to acquire the rights to pending unrestricted free-agent forward Marian Hossa.

"Yeah, I have been approached about acquiring his rights," Wings GM Ken Holland told ESPN.com on Saturday as the NHL draft wrapped up.

But for now, the answer is no as Holland keeps trying to re-sign the star winger.

"But obviously if it appears that we can't get anything done in the next 48 hours, then … you'd rather get something than nothing," Holland said. "So right now, I'm just in a holding pattern."

The NHL's top GM is in a holding pattern because there's not much else to say. The Hossa camp, led by agent Rich Winter, knows what Detroit can afford.

"We've talked, he knows our cap challenges," Holland said. "They can probably do better on the open market than what we can do. There [are] teams out there with more cap space. I've tried to put our best foot forward. He's been talking to Marian and they're going to decide whether they hit the open market or whether they're going to see if we can get something done."

When reached via e-mail Saturday, Winter declined to discuss the Hossa situation. Meanwhile, Winter also represents Wings forward Tomas Kopecky, also slated for UFA status come Wednesday.

"I talked to Rich Winter on Kopecky and it appears he's going to hit the open market," Holland said. "I made an offer, but he's hoping to do a lot better than what we offered."

Another pending UFA is veteran forward Mikael Samuelsson and there's still hope on that front.

"I talked to Samuelsson's agent a couple of days ago and we're going to talk again by Monday," Holland said. "We'd like to keep Sammy. But again, it's all about the cap."

The Sedin twins
The clock keeps ticking toward Wednesday's start of free agency and the Sedin twins remain unsigned by Vancouver. Canucks GM Mike Gillis and the agent for the twins, J.P. Barry, met late Saturday night here in Montreal, but we are told "no progress" was made.


"We're still very optimistic" Gillis said after the draft wrapped up Saturday. "They're guys we clearly want on our team. We are working hard to put our best foot forward. They are guys we definitely want back and we're going to try our hardest."

Tick-tock, tick-tock …

Hawks free agents
The Blackhawks continue to hammer away at pending UFAs
Nikolai Khabibulin and Martin Havlat as Wednesday approaches.

"Still talking," Blackhawks GM Dale Tallon said Saturday. "It's probably going to go down to the wire, so we'll see.

"We have to be concerned about our future. This year is fine, but it's the year after that we're concerned about as far as what the cap is going to be and what it's going to take to keep some key guys like [Jonathan] Toews, [Patrick] Kane and [Duncan] Keith [in the summer of 2010]."

The Hawks also have Dave Bolland, Kris Versteeg, Troy Brouwer and Cam Barker as restricted free agents this year. There's only so much money in the pie. I think the Hawks are willing to pay Havlat big money (in the $7 million range) for a one-year deal, but don't want to go past that because of the Toews/Kane/Keith free-agent year.

One rumor that made the rounds this weekend: Havlat finding his way to the Canadiens come Wednesday. It's interesting to note that Havlat spends his offseasons in Montreal.

What about Koivu?
What will happen with
Montreal Canadiens captain Saku Koivu? He's slated for unrestricted free agency Wednesday. Habs GM Bob Gainey and Koivu's veteran agent Don Baizley are slated to speak Monday, a source told ESPN.com. Is he Minnesota-bound to play with his brother Mikko if the Habs can't re-sign him?

New Jersey's free-agent list is long
So much has been made of the 10 UFAs on Montreal's list, but what about New Jersey? The next few days will be quite busy for Devils GM Lou Lamoriello, who has nine potential UFAs come Wednesday, including
Brian Gionta, Johnny Oduya, John Madden, Brendan Shanahan, Niclas Havelid and Scott Clemmensen, as well as restricted free agents Travis Zajac and Andy Greene.

"We really haven't had any major discussions," Lamoriello told ESPN.com on Saturday when asked about Gionta. "Because what we've done is that we're trying to see where our Group 2 [restricted] players are, seeing where we'll be with the numbers and then we'll make a decision on what's available for the Group 3s [UFAs].

"Sometimes we have to make the decision to move on. We would love to keep Brian Gionta, but we have to be very careful [with the cap]. Johnny Oduya would be a priority because of his age; he's a 27-year-old defenseman who's getting better and better. Brian [Gionta] is by no means out of the picture. He's been a Devil his whole career, that's the toughest part of it. Same as John Madden. But these have to be organizational decisions."

Lamoriello also indicated he has interested in bringing back Shanahan, if possible. "We're going to talk to Brendan," he said.

Now he'll stay in Beantown?
Now that trade talks with
Phil Kessel and Toronto have fizzled out, the Bruins have to resume negotiations with the young star winger, who is slated for restricted free agency Wednesday.

"I think both ourselves, the Bruins, and Phil are sifting our way through this new market and we've had discussions and we'll continue to," Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli told ESPN.com on Saturday. "I characterize it as grinding our way through these negotiations. We'll find a way, but there's no easy fix and I'm sure Phil feels the same way."

Other notes …
• I approached Senators owner Eugene Melnyk on Saturday, but he saw me coming from a mile away. "If it's anything about [Dany] Heatley, I won't say a word," Melnyk said. OK, then.


• We asked Flyers GM Paul Holmgren whether he had spoken this weekend with Martin Biron's new agent, Mark Witkin. "You're telling me right now who his new agent is, I didn't know," Holmgren said.

Sounds to me like Biron is headed for free agency.

• A little residue from the Chris Pronger blockbuster Friday night. Sources indicate the St. Louis Blues and Washington Capitals were also in talks with Anaheim about acquiring the star blueliner. The Caps could not afford the asking price (which included either young goalies Simeon Varlamov or Michal Neuvirth), while the Blues were a little more aggressive but also fell short of the package the Flyers came up with.

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A bit on the Kaberle/Kessel non-trade:
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=282967


TSN reported this morning that the Bruins had offered Phil Kessel in exchange for Tomas Kaberle and Toronto's No. 7 overall pick in today's draft.
It was later reported that the Leafs No. 7 pick was not included in
the deal and Boston was in fact adding a significant pick in the
package.
It turns out there was apparently major miscommunication between the
two teams.
Boston did indeed believe they were getting the No. 7 pick
from the Leafs but Toronto is apparently not interested in making that
move.

Holy broken telephone, Batman! No wonder we were all confused.

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All that hype, and there was hardly any trades .... diddles!

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HowieMorenz wrote:All that hype, and there was hardly any trades .... diddles!

Meanwhile, over in the NBA...

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HowieMorenz wrote:All that hype, and there was hardly any trades .... diddles!

the only big one being Pronger, and what other team out there would be a better fit for that a$$hole than Philly, him and Emery will get along great

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SensFan71 wrote:
HowieMorenz wrote:All that hype, and there was hardly any trades .... diddles!

the only big one being Pronger, and what other team out there would be a better fit for that a$$hole than Philly, him and Emery will get along great



Can't wait to see what happens the first time the two piss each other off in practice...

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This freakin' Heatley thing is really going to F-up the Sens chances of signing a big ticket in Free agency. I really hope this gets done in time to make a splash in the silly season.


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MIKE KOMISAREK TO BECOME AN UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT
06/30/09 at 03:02 PM EDT
MAXHOCKEY.COM/BREAKING NEWS...

MaxHockey has confirmed from sources in Montreal that Mike Komisarek will no longer be negotiating with the Canadiens and will become a free agent on July 1. Komisarek may still resign with the Canadiens, but will test the free agent market tomorrow. Possible destinations include the Islanders... "After much discussion and thought, Mike Komisarek has decided to enter the Free Agent market tomorrow at noon. Should they desire, we intend to keep Montreal involved in the process as they have treated Mike so well during his time in the organization. He remains interested in resigning with them." Matt Keator, Agent for Mike Komisarek

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