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With Koivu and Company, What's Next for The Ducks?

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The Anaheim Ducks went from waddlers to nearly being a Cinderella team in this year's Stanley Cup Playoffs. Out of the running for the post season on March 1, Ducks GM Bob Murray made some key personnel moves that helped propel the 2007 Stanley Cup Champions back into the picture.

After shocking the Sharks, the Ducks came oh-so-close to pecking the Red Wings out of a return chance to maintain the Mug.

So what's next for the Orange County Quackers?

The view from the local perspective, from The Orange Country Register:

How much will Ducks change?

The Ducks not only salvaged their season, they carved out a future. But can they make that future brighter by getting a scorer and still keeping Chris Pronger?

Mark Whicker/Orange County Register, May 15, 2009

This is the Morning After. The Ducks were dreading the Season After. Everything about them was built for 2009, like a gallant old Buick with its warranty up.

In mid-February, with the Ducks trailing Phoenix in the standings, it seemed logical to panic. Trade Chris Pronger, trade Jean-Sebastien Giguere, trade Scott Niedermayer, trade all the above and begin the excavation. Hit the bottom quick so you can hit the surface quicker. That's Salary Cap Hockey, you know.

General manager Bob Murray tried something different.

He dealt Travis Moen, Chris Kunitz and Samuel Pahlsson. On March 4, after he brought such vague names as Wisniewski, Whitney, Christensen and Nokaleinen, Murray warned the remaining Ducks that the 2008-09 season was still in play. "I'm going to be watching very carefully to make sure they understand that," he said.

We all watched. And they did.

With 56 minutes and 59 seconds gone in Game 7 of the second round, the Ducks were tied with the defending Stanley Cup champions. Had they won they would have played a dangerous but beardless Chicago team. Boston, the toughest Eastern contender, lost at home to Carolina, in Game 7 overtime, shortly after Detroit's Dan Cleary pulled down the curtains on the Ducks.

(Note to those commandos of the NBA: Winning a clinching game on a visiting court/rink is legal. Carolina and Pittsburgh both did it.)

"It was a second-half success," Ryan Getzlaf said Thursday, as the victory music still rocked Joe Louis Arena. "We made some moves and got into the playoffs and did well. Now it's up to Mr. Murray. I'm sure things will be different next year, but I'm confident he'll do a good job."

The cap, and mandates from the front office, will complicate Murray's summer, but he's already done much of the lifting. Defensemen James Wisniewski and Ryan Whitney were critical. Petteri Nokaleinen looked like a useful center, especially on penalty kills.

Wisniewski is a restricted free agent whom the Ducks can keep by matching any offer sheet. It seems imperative that they do, if you remember Dustin Penner.

Whitney has a manageable contract through 2013, and he'll make $3.5 million next year, and maybe he'll be healthier and more prominent from the beginning.

The process all starts at the familiar door of Scott Niedermayer. The captain, now a free agent, did make a point of saying the stretch drive had been fun.

Niedermayer had a terrific playoff. It should be noted that hockey pulls him as hard as most players; on July 1, 2007, he flatly stated that he was "strongly leaning" toward retirement, and in December he was back.

And the 2010 Olympics are in his native British Columbia.

Up front, there are no more Bobby Ryans on the immediate horizon, and it's doubtful Murray can get a quality forward without trading either Chris Pronger or Jean-Sebastien Giguere.

Brian Burke gave Giguere a no-trade clause with his $24 million, four-year contract. Giguere has $13 million and two years coming.

No-trades aren't forever. Dan Boyle had one at Tampa Bay and he's now in San Jose.

Giguere wasn't happy on the bench, but Jonas Hiller is clearly a No. 1 goalie now. Hiller made 494 saves in the playoffs, 89 more than anyone else in the NHL, and leads the postseason with a .943 save percentage. To compare, Washington's Simeon Varlamov played 13 games, as Hiller did, and was asked to make 137 fewer saves.

Giguere might be difficult to move, but don't forget that Chicago invested $12.3 million in goalies Nikolai Khabibulin and Cristobal Huet.

Pronger? He makes $6.25 million in '10, the final year of his deal. But he's not as old as you think. He only turns 35 in October. Remember, the Ducks didn't win a Cup until they got Pronger, and they will become alarmingly civilized to play against, if he's gone.

The most logical destination is St. Louis, Pronger's old slashing ground. The Blues have a cluster of young scorers. They would welcome Pronger to play with emerging defenseman Erik Johnson.

The Ducks will probably ask for T.J. Oshie and get turned down, but Patrick Berglund is a centerman who looks intriguing. Berglund had 21 goals and was plus-19 in his rookie year, and he is signed through 2011, when he will only make $765,000. Of course, that also makes him attractive to the Blues.

Francois Beauchemin might be too expensive to keep, with Brian Salcido up-and-coming, but the Ducks would miss Todd Marchant horribly if he signs elsewhere.

Whatever happens, the Ducks have built a bridge to next season, even if it fell just a bit short of Chicago, like the Blues Brothers movie.

It might stretch all the way to shore if the Ducks bring a band back together that includes Chris Pronger.

Contact the writer: [url=mailto://mwhicker@ocregister.com]mwhicker@ocregister.com[/url]

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Your thoughts?



Last edited by davetherave on Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:58 am; edited 3 times in total

PTFlea

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So much depends on if Neidermayer resigns. If he does, they're in a position to be really competitive again. Same applies to Beachemin. If they can get them, then that's probably 11 million or so - giving them pretty limited resources to get some more secondary scoring.

Unless...Giguere agrees to a trade. Then the Ducks are golden IMO. Right up there with Detroit and the Hawks assuming Hiller keeps it up.

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If Neidermeyer and Pronger walk away then it'll set them back a few years IMO.


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as per NHL numbers, Ducks have 13 players signed for a dollar value of 37.443 (or 36.223 if that is the cap hit amount), and they have 10 FA's if I read it correctly, should be a number crunching off season for Bob Murray.

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The Ducks UFAs are as follows:

Defense:
Scott Niedermayer, Francois Beauchemin (Bret Hedican will probably retire due to his chronic back problems, per a report in the Orange County Register)

Forward: Rob Niedermayer, Todd Marchant, Brad Larsen.

With only $37MM committed, Bob Murray appears to have some degree of flexibility.

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Could a big FA sign here? a Hossa, Havlat, or Gaborik kind of player?

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davetherave wrote:The Ducks UFAs are as follows:

Defense:
Scott Niedermayer, Francois Beauchemin (Bret Hedican will probably retire due to his chronic back problems, per a report in the Orange County Register)

Forward: Rob Niedermayer, Todd Marchant, Brad Larsen.

With only $37MM committed, Bob Murray appears to have some degree of flexibility.

I am not so certain of that flexibility, especially when you have RFA's to sign too and offer sheets to worry about, the Niedermayers may base a lot on where the other brother signs, and I am thinking Scott decides on that one. Beauchemin should be due for a raise, Marchant, great leader, but you could probably fill his role cheaply if he gets too pricey.

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The Whitney deal looks very good for them right now. They're set up front for the future with Getzlaf, Perry and Ryan et all, but it'll be a transition from the old guard to the young'uns on defence.

Whitney, Gardiner (granted, they wanted Karlsson, but we stole him from under Burke's nose Smile ), Mitera and Mikkelson are a decent core to build around for the future, but I'd look for a d-man with the #1 pick. Runblad would be a great fit, for one.

I'd also try to move Giguere in the off-season. Maybe something with Philly? Shrug

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I can't see Giggy sticking around unless they can't move him... I'm sure he'd agree to a trade, but to who? He has two years left ($6.0M and $7.0M) and a NTC so he controls his destiny.

Montreal to help mentor Price?

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asq2 wrote:The Whitney deal looks very good for them right now. They're set up front for the future with Getzlaf, Perry and Ryan et all, but it'll be a transition from the old guard to the young'uns on defence.

Whitney, Gardiner (granted, they wanted Karlsson, but we stole him from under Burke's nose Smile ), Mitera and Mikkelson are a decent core to build around for the future, but I'd look for a d-man with the #1 pick. Runblad would be a great fit, for one.

I'd also try to move Giguere in the off-season. Maybe something with Philly? Shrug

NTC will be a huge issue with JS. He'll say no to a lot of teams I would think.

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I like this team a lot. Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan, Selanne. 4 of 6 top six players who are stellar. I'd put a massive offer for Pronger on the table July 1st. 3 years, 7 million per year. I'd table a huge offer for Neidermayer right now as well. 4 years, 7 per year. Beauchemin, I'd do everything I could to retain. Then let the chips fall where they may. I'd look at perhaps getting one more player up front, but as long as they can keep the D together a little longer, they're a powerful team.

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In this article from Anaheim's leading daily, former NHLer and current TSN analyst Ray Ferraro suggests that Scott Niedermayer needs to lead Canada's Olympic Team:

FERRARO CALLS FOR NIEDERMAYER TO CAPTAIN CANADA
Curtis Zupke, The Orange County Register, June 2, 2009

The names most often brought up regarding the captaincy of Team Canada for the 2010 Winter Olympics seem to be Sidney Crosby and Jarome Iginla.
Crosby is the face of the NHL who waqs given the captain’s ‘C’ by the Pittsburgh Penguins at 19. Iginla is a premier power forward who has played on the past two Olympic teams.

However, hockey analyst and former player Ray Ferraro called for Ducks defenseman Scott Niedermayer (right, in the 2004 World Championships) to wear the ‘C’ for Canada in a radio interview Tuesday on the “The Jim Rome Show” (KLAC/570).

Ferraro said Niedermayer’s understated leadership would go the furthest in a room full of superstars.

“The way that he works just commands respect,” Ferraro said. “That, to me, is a great form of leadership. Niedermayer, for longevity and service and the respect that he commands around the league, I think Scott Niedermayer’s got to be that captain.”

Part of why Niedermayer has not been mentioned as prominently as Crosby and Iginla among candidates might be because he has not announced whether he will return to play this season, a presumed requisite for the Olympics in February in Vancouver.

Niedermayer has only played in one Olympics, in 2002, but his international experience has been well documented. He is the only player to have won a Stanley Cup, Olympic gold medal, World Championship, World Cup, Memorial Cup and World Junior title.

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BROWN SIGNS CONTRACT EXTENSION
ESPN.COM, June 8, 2009

LOS ANGELES -- The Anaheim Ducks signed right winger Mike Brown to a two-year contract extension on Monday, allowing the team to keep a reliable penalty killer.
Financial terms were not disclosed, but ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun reported Brown would earn $500,000 in 2009-10 and $575,000 in 2010-11.

The 23-year-old Brown was acquired at this year's trade deadline from the Vancouver Canucks.

His toughness was something the Ducks were looking for after they traded Brad May to the Toronto Maple Leafs in January.

It worked, but Anaheim was eliminated by the Detroit Red Wings in seven games in the Western Conference semifinals.

Brown landed a blow to Jiri Hudler's head in the first period of Game 1 in the series against the Wings. He was not suspended for the hit.

Brown appeared in 28 games for the Ducks, scoring two goals with one assist. He added two assists in the playoffs.

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From the Orange County Register:

NIEDERMAYER DECISION SOON?
Curtis Zupke, OCRegister.com, June 15, 2009

The Ducks could learn this week the future of defenseman Scott Niedermayer.
General manager Bob Murray was expected to talk with Niedermayer upon returning from a trip this past weekend. It has been almost a month since Murray gave Niedermayer and Teemu Selanne a June 26 deadline, or before the NHL draft, to make a decision.

The Ducks are waiting to see if Niedermayer, 35, will resume his Hall of Famer career and, if so, if they can re-sign their captain. Niedermayer is due to become an unrestricted free agent on July 1,
and the organization’s offseason free agency plans largely hinge on his decision.

Niedermayer was typically non-committal about his feelings after his season-ending exit interview. Murray had said retaining Niedermayer was a priority, calling the veteran irreplaceable.

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Would they trade Pronger is Neidermayer was leaving though? I think he'll return based on the 'where there's smoke, there's fire' of the Pronger pending trade.

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