Kuba + Neil packaged together?

We'd want Cheechoo because he can turn it around. Look what happened to Marleau.

Schubert can't crack the line up but he could crack some heads.

Lemieux is world-famous for his Rafael imitation (one of the teenage ninja turtles) so I wouldn't exactly call him nasty...unless you were going the personal hygiene angle?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:We'd want Cheechoo because he can turn it around. Look what happened to Marleau.

I, personally, don't want him, I prefer home-grown, but I wonder if he could score another 50 with Spezza feeding him the puck? Just think what we could then get for Heatley.

davetherave wrote:
And why would the Senators want an underachieving Cheechoo, who is signed for two more years at 3.5MM per?

He's one of the hardest working players in the league who definitely has the goal scoring ability. He needs a change of scenery very badly - and when that happens...

Also, I think he can play RW on Spezza and Heatley's line or RW with Fisher and Foligno and be effective either way.

Major league player who's had some injury issues, but will rise again (in another uniform other than the Sharks).

Of course, this will never happen, because if the Sharks sustain an injury in their top 6, Cheechoo can step in immediately and help. That's depth for ya.

504Heater wrote:Of course, this will never happen, because if the Sharks sustain an injury in their top 6, Cheechoo can step in immediately and help. That's depth for ya.

Exactly.

A forward lineup of:


Heatley - Spezza - Cheechoo

Fisher - Comrie - Alfredsson

Foligno - Kelly - Winchester

Donovan - Bass - Ruutu



Looks pretty solid to to bottom IMO.

Salary wise I believe you'd be looking at 35.5 mil or forwards assuming Comrie resigns for 3.5/year.

Defence wise:

Phillips - Volchenkov

Campoli - Ohlund

Picard - Lee


Asssuming they can trade Kuba and Smith and sign Ohlund for ~5mil/year = 13.71 mil on D

Total 49.21

Goaltending

Elliott

Auld

Guessing Elliott will sign in the ~1mil range so 2 mil total on goaltending.

51.21 total Cap hit...plus having traded Kuba, Neil, Vermette, Schubert and Smith I would thing they would have quite a few prospects and decent draft picks in the system.

Of course this is just a dream scenario but I see it as being pretty realistic considering the rumours that are out there. But to me the team looks pretty solid top to bottom. Goaltending would of course remain a question mark but secondary scoring and puck movind D seem to be taken care of. And plenty of cap flexibility going forward.

^ you can save another 2.1 by trading Kelly. Just saying...

On the Team yesterday, they were talking to a Vancouver media member, who was saying that Ohlund's play has deteriorated this year considerably (I worry about a Redden repeat).

I was worried about that RobbyJ but even while struggling I would guess that he's been better than 4 or 5 of our top 6 d men

PKC wrote:

Cronie wrote:Heard that there is a possibility the Sharks come out swinging to snag both Neil and Kuba later today; however, with no 1st in their arsenal, Murray may look elsewhere.

As they say, let the bidding wars begin.

I'd take Cheechoo, a prospect, and their highest available pick.

I'd do Cheechoo, Logan, 2009 2nd, 2010 1st for Kuba and Neil. The price to pay for both players when both individually could get you picks and quality player or prospect.

Phoenix30 wrote:

PKC wrote:

Cronie wrote:Heard that there is a possibility the Sharks come out swinging to snag both Neil and Kuba later today; however, with no 1st in their arsenal, Murray may look elsewhere.

As they say, let the bidding wars begin.

I'd take Cheechoo, a prospect, and their highest available pick.

I'd do Cheechoo, Logan, 2009 2nd, 2010 1st for Kuba and Neil. The price to pay for both players when both individually could get you picks and quality player or prospect.

You`re way off. DOn`t forget they are 2 UFAs.

marakh wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:

PKC wrote:

Cronie wrote:Heard that there is a possibility the Sharks come out swinging to snag both Neil and Kuba later today; however, with no 1st in their arsenal, Murray may look elsewhere.

As they say, let the bidding wars begin.

I'd take Cheechoo, a prospect, and their highest available pick.

I'd do Cheechoo, Logan, 2009 2nd, 2010 1st for Kuba and Neil. The price to pay for both players when both individually could get you picks and quality player or prospect.

You`re way off. DOn`t forget they are 2 UFAs.

Maybe in the off season if they werent UFA's but its deadline day the silly season and some have suggested that Neils stock could even fetch a 1st.

Break it down and would you say no to Kuba for Cheechoo and a 2nd and Neil for Logan and a 1st.....probably not. Moving an underperforming Cheechoo gives the sharks some cap relief this season while gaining grit in Neil.

Urkie wrote:Big Bruce brought up the name Logan Couture in his blog.

http://www.blog.canoe.ca/offtheposts

He mentions we should be interested in getting Couture, which is pretty obvious but doesn't mean he's available.

It's sort of like saying that if we were to trade Ruutu back to Pittsburgh, we should be interested in Malkin.

asq2 wrote:He mentions we should be interested in getting Couture, which is pretty obvious but doesn't mean he's available.

It's sort of like saying that if we were to trade Ruutu back to Pittsburgh, we should be interested in Malkin.

If we're giving up Kuba and Neil then they better give up Couture because they don't have their 1st rounder.

Urkie wrote:

asq2 wrote:He mentions we should be interested in getting Couture, which is pretty obvious but doesn't mean he's available.

It's sort of like saying that if we were to trade Ruutu back to Pittsburgh, we should be interested in Malkin.

If we're giving up Kuba and Neil then they better give up Couture because they don't have their 1st rounder.

It's not worth Couture.

They could probably get Bouwmeester with a package centred around Couture. He's an elite prospect.

I would kill to get Cotoure. He is a Murray player, and is already familiar with the area.

If couture is an option, Murray better at least be talking about it, if it falls through, those things happen, but if it's any bit realistic, Murray, do not be hesitant and pull the trigger for Kuba + Neil