TBOFS- Ottawa Senators

Yashin.

1. First great player on the team.
2. In the end, he became Chara and Spezza.

dennycrane wrote:Yashin.

1. First great player on the team.
2. In the end, he became Chara and Spezza and Muckalt.

Fixed.

hemlock wrote:

dennycrane wrote:Yashin.

1. First great player on the team.
2. In the end, he became Chara and Spezza and Muckalt.

Fixed.

And don't you forget it!!

Dawg's Wife wrote:
As much as I hate him I have to agree with McGuire...This morning he said we've never had an elite goalie, and Hasey was as close as we got. He wasn't elite though..far from it and out of his prime by the time he got here.

Holy Dung, that blows my mind that he was 'far from elite' and 'out of his prime' here. When he played here, most nights I would just sit in awe. There was no chance you were scoring on him - and if you were unfortunate to score one on him early, it was over, he was a brick wall. A lot of times I didn't know how he did it, a lot of times I attributed it to luck, but it just happened too often for it to be luck or position.

I thought he was the best player ever to wear a Sens jersey - and to be honest, it's not even really close. Problem is, I knew he wouldn't last forever - and the way it ended here was crushing.

And you're dead on, he wasn't even close to as good as he was in Barfallo. Wow. We need another one of those please. Pronto.

504Heater wrote:

Dawg's Wife wrote:
As much as I hate him I have to agree with McGuire...This morning he said we've never had an elite goalie, and Hasey was as close as we got. He wasn't elite though..far from it and out of his prime by the time he got here.

Holy Dung, that blows my mind that he was 'far from elite' and 'out of his prime' here. When he played here, most nights I would just sit in awe. There was no chance you were scoring on him - and if you were unfortunate to score one on him early, it was over, he was a brick wall. A lot of times I didn't know how he did it, a lot of times I attributed it to luck, but it just happened too often for it to be luck or position.

I thought he was the best player ever to wear a Sens jersey - and to be honest, it's not even really close. Problem is, I knew he wouldn't last forever - and the way it ended here was crushing.

And you're dead on, he wasn't even close to as good as he was in Barfallo. Wow. We need another one of those please. Pronto.

Yeah. He was leading the league is most goaltending categories at the time of his injury. We were a stronger adductor muscle away from a cup that year.

hemlock wrote:
Yeah. He was leading the league is most goaltending categories at the time of his injury. We were a stronger adductor muscle away from a cup that year.

I'm convinced it wouldn't even have been close. Cam Ward, meet Dominik Hasek, Hasek, Ward. Let's get it on.

504Heater wrote:

hemlock wrote:
Yeah. He was leading the league is most goaltending categories at the time of his injury. We were a stronger adductor muscle away from a cup that year.

I'm convinced it wouldn't even have been close. Cam Ward, meet Dominik Hasek, Hasek, Ward. Let's get it on.

It would have been extra special to beat the Sabres that year too. To this day, those fans feel that team was a team of destiny that was somehow robbed.

We broke all their defence. They weren't going anywhere.

Dawg's Wife wrote:

Sens4thecup wrote:No Chara??? :P

Or Duchesne

not only did he score "the goal" but he also was the first good d-man and IMHO best all around defenseman we've ever had. Leadership, puck moving, powerplay QB, defensive ability.

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1996-97			78	19	28	47	38

I agree Duchene had the biggest impact in his short stay. You can't forget the "GOAL" that 1st put us into the playoffs

I thought about Yashin but I just dislike him too much to pick him and hey I AM Cap'n Clutch so the choice should be obvious right? Actually it wasn't that easy.

Duchesne was only here for 2 years. Hard to say that our franchise was most impacted by someone only here for 2 years.

I can't say anyone but Alfie. From Calder beginnigs to hopefully being a life long Sen. Face of the franchise for sure.

I don't see how anyone says anyone else. When you think Ottawa Senators who do you think of? besides the Spartan...

Tukker wrote:I don't see how anyone says anyone else. When you think Ottawa Senators who do you think of? besides the Spartan...

Man, he had a pretty big impact though. :oops:

asq2 wrote:

Tukker wrote:I don't see how anyone says anyone else. When you think Ottawa Senators who do you think of? besides the Spartan...

Man, he had a pretty big impact though. :oops:

as if we needed help being a laughing stock in the league. We're doing that just fine without him...

504Heater wrote:

hemlock wrote:
Yeah. He was leading the league is most goaltending categories at the time of his injury. We were a stronger adductor muscle away from a cup that year.

I'm convinced it wouldn't even have been close. Cam Ward, meet Dominik Hasek, Hasek, Ward. Let's get it on.

That was, in my opinion, the best lock-out team assembled so far.

Look at these stats:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000542006.html

Dominant Hasek in nets, Chara, good Redden & Meszaros, Phillips, Volchenkov and Pothier on the blue-line and an offence that scored over 100 goals (314, a post-lock-out record) more than it allowed (211).

If you look at the production (ignoring the big 3), Fisher, Schaefer, Vermette and Eaves all broke 20, Smolinski had 17, Neil 16, and many others had 10+. Did those players (apart from Smolinski) get magically worse with age? Of course not. It was the defence that kick-started that offence.

If that's not the greatest sell for Victor Hedman, then I don't know what is. Hedman, Karlsson, Lee, Picard, Wiercioch and Volchenkov would get this offence back on its feet in no time. Secondary scoring would be bursting out of the wood-work. I mean, Martin Havlat was injured the whole season and we still had some of the greatest scoring depth the New NHL has seen.

asq2 wrote:

504Heater wrote:

hemlock wrote:
Yeah. He was leading the league is most goaltending categories at the time of his injury. We were a stronger adductor muscle away from a cup that year.

I'm convinced it wouldn't even have been close. Cam Ward, meet Dominik Hasek, Hasek, Ward. Let's get it on.

That was, in my opinion, the best lock-out team assembled so far.

Look at these stats:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000542006.html

Dominant Hasek in nets, Chara, good Redden & Meszaros, Phillips, Volchenkov and Pothier on the blue-line and an offence that scored over 100 goals (314, a post-lock-out record) more than it allowed (211).

If you look at the production (ignoring the big 3), Fisher, Schaefer, Vermette and Eaves all broke 20, Smolinski had 17, Neil 16, and many others had 10+. Did those players (apart from Smolinski) get magically worse with age? Of course not. It was the defence that kick-started that offence.

If that's not the greatest sell for Victor Hedman, then I don't know what is. Hedman, Karlsson, Lee, Picard, Wiercioch and Volchenkov would get this offence back on its feet in no time. Secondary scoring would be bursting out of the wood-work. I mean, Martin Havlat was injured the whole season and we still had some of the greatest scoring depth the New NHL has seen.

It's a mighty fall from grace. That seems like 100 years ago.

We've already got a nice to start to getting the defense back to where it was then. Hedman could be our Chara (obviously, I don't expect him to be the intimidating force that Z is), only better offensively. I maintain once he is accustomed to the smaller rink and the NHL game, he will take advantage of his size more.

hemlock wrote:

asq2 wrote:

504Heater wrote:

hemlock wrote:
Yeah. He was leading the league is most goaltending categories at the time of his injury. We were a stronger adductor muscle away from a cup that year.

I'm convinced it wouldn't even have been close. Cam Ward, meet Dominik Hasek, Hasek, Ward. Let's get it on.

That was, in my opinion, the best lock-out team assembled so far.

Look at these stats:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000542006.html

Dominant Hasek in nets, Chara, good Redden & Meszaros, Phillips, Volchenkov and Pothier on the blue-line and an offence that scored over 100 goals (314, a post-lock-out record) more than it allowed (211).

If you look at the production (ignoring the big 3), Fisher, Schaefer, Vermette and Eaves all broke 20, Smolinski had 17, Neil 16, and many others had 10+. Did those players (apart from Smolinski) get magically worse with age? Of course not. It was the defence that kick-started that offence.

If that's not the greatest sell for Victor Hedman, then I don't know what is. Hedman, Karlsson, Lee, Picard, Wiercioch and Volchenkov would get this offence back on its feet in no time. Secondary scoring would be bursting out of the wood-work. I mean, Martin Havlat was injured the whole season and we still had some of the greatest scoring depth the New NHL has seen.

It's a mighty fall from grace. That seems like 100 years ago.

We've already got a nice to start to getting the defense back to where it was then. Hedman could be our Chara (obviously, I don't expect him to be the intimidating force that Z is), only better offensively. I maintain once he is accustomed to the smaller rink and the NHL game, he will take advantage of his size more.

Karlsson is good-Redden-like in terms of passing and decision-making, with a better shot.

Lee is like Phillips only less physical but better offensively. Wiercioch is an unknown for me (haven't watched him play much) but I've read and heard a lot of good things.

We certainly have the ability to build one helluva blue-line from an offensive perspective.