GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ St. Louis Blues :: 8:00pm ET :: Tue. Feb. 4th, 2014

tim1_2 wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:Our previous Captain was a notorious whiner, so there may be carry over from that.

For real?

Vandelay wrote:

I just don't see the point in taking a closer look at a play like that though.  The refs are making the calls in real time and while yes, they did a crap job overall, while watching the game last night, I thought it was a slue foot on Macarthur.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:I think Ottawa must have a bad rep among refs, maybe due to the Clouston days, who knows....I don't think our current group of players whines any more than the average team, so I dunno....

That was all bull$hit when people finally started asking why, the pundits had to come up with an excuse and Clouston, being a new coach in the league, made a convenient scapegoat.

Every fu¢king coach and most players in the league "whine" to the refs.

Again, most refs are Leafs fans. End of story.

shabbs wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:Our previous Captain was a notorious whiner, so there may be carry over from that.

For real?

I don't recall that being the case...

Oglethorpe wrote:

shabbs wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:Our previous Captain was a notorious whiner, so there may be carry over from that.

For real?

I don't recall that being the case...

He was always on the Top whiners and divers lists. Nowhere near Crosby, but still bad. Also, we say Clouston was a whiner, Bryan Murray is quite the complainer as well.

tim1_2 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:I think Ottawa must have a bad rep among refs, maybe due to the Clouston days, who knows....I don't think our current group of players whines any more than the average team, so I dunno....

That was all bull$hit when people finally started asking why, the pundits had to come up with an excuse and Clouston, being a new coach in the league, made a convenient scapegoat.

Every fu¢king coach and most players in the league "whine" to the refs.

Again, most refs are Leafs fans. End of story.

Leafs and Habs fans.  

I agree.

wprager wrote:

Michallica wrote:Kerry Fraser's report on last night's officiating

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=443080

One thing he missed was the high-stick by backes on spezza in the 3rd period.

With 2:06 remaining in the first, Clarke MacArthur was correctly penalized for tripping when he kicked T.J. Oshie's skates out from behind to take down the Blue player. Even though Sens coach Paul McLean and MacArthur protested, the referee made the right call!

I think Kerry needs to take another look.  While CMac did put his hand on Oshie's shoulder and pushed downward, and while it did look like a slewfoot, there was actually *no* contact from CMac's feet/shins/knees/anything to the back of Oshie's legs/knees/ankles.  I don't necessarily want to call it a dive, because Oshie could have just been off-balance at the time, but it was not a trip because there was zero contact  below the waist.

And, yes, he missed the non-call on the high stick to Spezza's face.

Overall, though, I have *never* seen Fraser stick it this much to a referee.  He's basically saying Joanette had excellet opportunities early on to stop the stupidity and didn't; he made a bad mistake on the Ryan "elbow"; and he made a completely unnecessary and inconsistent call giving Michalek the "roughing" penalty.  

In short, that's the closest I've seen to Kerry throwing another ref under the bus.