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Rank the top 10 prospects in the world

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spader


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NEELY wrote:
spader wrote:
NEELY wrote:I think The Oilers will regret not taking Larsson for a very long time.

Very interesting. You may well be right.

Meh, we'll see. What The Sens did with Karlsson/Cowen/Rundblad is, IMO, exactly the way to build a team. Pheonix and Florida are doing it that way as well. Florida and Ottawa are so similar in their prospect pools they may very well mirror each other for the next decade (although being in Florida they may do somethign stupid to attract fans).


I agree with the "build from the blueline out" method. It makes so much sense. Edmonton will be an interesting example of what happens when you try to build from the top line down. We'll see what they do with it, but there's no question that they need to bolster that blueline. We'll see how it shakes out.

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Let's not sell Edmonton too short here, they have Hall + RNH + Eberle + MPS (this is where I'm sure they wish they had Cowen) + Gagner + Omark up front, they'll be trading a forward for a D at some point - and if not, they'll be able to spend all their UFA $$s solely on D and or a G.

Not to mention the guy they drafted this year Klefbom, he's quite good. They need to get proactive about their D and G soon, but not quite yet...next draft IMO, all D all the time.

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I don't mean to be selling them short. I believe that building is best done from the blue line out, but I'm very interested to see how their method works (or doesn't work). I didn't mean to imply that I think they'll fail. I'm curious to see how Edmonton compares to Ottawa in the coming years, as each team has an opposite approach to drafting (seemingly).

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spader wrote:I don't mean to be selling them short. I believe that building is best done from the blue line out, but I'm very interested to see how their method works (or doesn't work). I didn't mean to imply that I think they'll fail. I'm curious to see how Edmonton compares to Ottawa in the coming years, as each team has an opposite approach to drafting (seemingly).

I wonder if the Sens and Oilers are perfect trading partners in the coming 3 years or so...although some of their fans are obnoxious beyond belief.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Mine would be:

1.Brayden Schenn - still a top prospect, although his time is now
2.RNH - in terms of skill, he's second to none
3.Ryan Johansen - powerful, big pivot could be Columbus' 2nd line C - soon
4.David Rundblad - top rated D prospect
5.Nino Niederreiter - it's time for "El Nino" to join the Isles young top 6 and produce
6.Vladimir Tarasenko - oozes skill, character and has a sturdy frame to boot
7.Erik Gudbranson - a personal favourite, a shutdown D with snarl
8.Brendan Smith - scary vision and amazing hockey sense
9.Evgeny Kuznetsov - his stock has rocketed up
10a.Jonathan Huberdeau - everything you want in a top 6 forward
10b.Adam Larsson - basically everything you want in a top pairing D-man

No Landeskog?

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SpezDispenser wrote:Let's not sell Edmonton too short here, they have Hall + RNH + Eberle + MPS (this is where I'm sure they wish they had Cowen) + Gagner + Omark up front, they'll be trading a forward for a D at some point - and if not, they'll be able to spend all their UFA $$s solely on D and or a G.

Not to mention the guy they drafted this year Klefbom, he's quite good. They need to get proactive about their D and G soon, but not quite yet...next draft IMO, all D all the time.

Doesn't the 2012 draft have a lot of really good defense prospects?

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sandysensfan wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Mine would be:

1.Brayden Schenn - still a top prospect, although his time is now
2.RNH - in terms of skill, he's second to none
3.Ryan Johansen - powerful, big pivot could be Columbus' 2nd line C - soon
4.David Rundblad - top rated D prospect
5.Nino Niederreiter - it's time for "El Nino" to join the Isles young top 6 and produce
6.Vladimir Tarasenko - oozes skill, character and has a sturdy frame to boot
7.Erik Gudbranson - a personal favourite, a shutdown D with snarl
8.Brendan Smith - scary vision and amazing hockey sense
9.Evgeny Kuznetsov - his stock has rocketed up
10a.Jonathan Huberdeau - everything you want in a top 6 forward
10b.Adam Larsson - basically everything you want in a top pairing D-man

No Landeskog?

Close, but a top 10 prospect in the world right now? I didn't see fit to push anyone out of there for him.

sandysensfan wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Let's not sell Edmonton too short here, they have Hall + RNH + Eberle + MPS (this is where I'm sure they wish they had Cowen) + Gagner + Omark up front, they'll be trading a forward for a D at some point - and if not, they'll be able to spend all their UFA $$s solely on D and or a G.

Not to mention the guy they drafted this year Klefbom, he's quite good. They need to get proactive about their D and G soon, but not quite yet...next draft IMO, all D all the time.

Doesn't the 2012 draft have a lot of really good defense prospects?

I believe so, but I don't start following yet.

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Why wouldn't Landeskog be on the list if Huberdeau and Larsson are? I mean, he was picked over them.

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Big Ev wrote:Why wouldn't Landeskog be on the list if Huberdeau and Larsson are? I mean, he was picked over them.

To me personally, he doesn't have nearly the upside of a Larsson or Huberdeau.

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Big Ev wrote:Why wouldn't Landeskog be on the list if Huberdeau and Larsson are? I mean, he was picked over them.

Brian Lee was picked above Kopitar. Does that mean that he's better? There isn't always a direct correlation between where someone was picked and their value as prospects.

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No but Landeskog has been consistently ranked as a Top 3 draft prospect for the 2011 draft. He deserves recognition.

Brian lee was just a stupid reach.

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Big Ev wrote:No but Landeskog has been consistently ranked as a Top 3 draft prospect for the 2011 draft. He deserves recognition.

Brian lee was just a stupid reach.
Ha. Agreed. I'm just pointing out that it's silly to apply a direct correlation between draft ranking and real value/ability. While draft position gives some indication, it definitely doesn't mean that a player will succeed.

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Landeskog would have been worth much more to us than to anyone else. I never saw him as a top 3 pick personally - unless we were in the top 3.

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spader wrote:
Big Ev wrote:No but Landeskog has been consistently ranked as a Top 3 draft prospect for the 2011 draft. He deserves recognition.

Brian lee was just a stupid reach.
Ha. Agreed. I'm just pointing out that it's silly to apply a direct correlation between draft ranking and real value/ability. While draft position gives some indication, it definitely doesn't mean that a player will succeed.
Sens know all about that.

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Luckily I was never old enough to see Daigle play!

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He was quite good, but the Sens badly wanted him in the NHL so they completely and utterly rushed him. Still ended up being an effective player before injuries started to derail him + because he was rushed.

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spader wrote:
Big Ev wrote:No but Landeskog has been consistently ranked as a Top 3 draft prospect for the 2011 draft. He deserves recognition.

Brian lee was just a stupid reach.
Ha. Agreed. I'm just pointing out that it's silly to apply a direct correlation between draft ranking and real value/ability. While draft position gives some indication, it definitely doesn't mean that a player will succeed.

If you make that comparison 3-5 years after the draft then, yes, I agree. If you do it a couple months after, with no meaningful games played since the draft, then I'd say the draft order *should* be reflected in the ranking. Except for stupid picks (like Lee).


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