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Lagoon wrote:
Ev wrote:Boro won't be back, but it doesn't really matter. I never minded him on the ice, but it's pretty funny that he was a whipping boy for years yet all of a sudden people are so sad at the thought of him leaving. We have a lot of D options and free agency to come.  

I think those two groups are different groups of fans. The ones that whipped Boro are still not caring. The ones that recognized the value of Boro’s play and his contract are the ones that are sad now. Just another example of the someone jumping ship and not willing to keep playing for Melnyk when they have a chance to go elsewhere.

They aren't two different groups. The same people who hated Boro for years (and attacked him and Ceci) have a done a complete 180 because of his social views. It's very strange. Many other players were great dudes, like Zack Smith, yet they didn't care when he was moved.

Personally, I didn't whip Boro - I thought he was a legit bottom pair and wasn't an AHL D as some proclaimed, but I won't care much if he's not retained. It doesn't matter much who the 6th-7th D is. Like Jaros can fill in just the same.

Also from what I understand this would be the team moving on from him, not Boro jumping ship. But who knows.

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It would suck if he stayed in the division. He's honestly the perfect d-man for Toronto. Either him or Gudas. But Toronto already has too many guys signed on their back-end and apparently want to sign Pietrangelo so who knows.

He'd be a good fit in Montreal and Buffalo too.

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Ev wrote:
Lagoon wrote:
Ev wrote:Boro won't be back, but it doesn't really matter. I never minded him on the ice, but it's pretty funny that he was a whipping boy for years yet all of a sudden people are so sad at the thought of him leaving. We have a lot of D options and free agency to come.  

I think those two groups are different groups of fans. The ones that whipped Boro are still not caring. The ones that recognized the value of Boro’s play and his contract are the ones that are sad now. Just another example of the someone jumping ship and not willing to keep playing for Melnyk when they have a chance to go elsewhere.

They aren't two different groups. The same people who hated Boro for years (and attacked him and Ceci) have a done a complete 180 because of his social views. It's very strange. Many other players were great dudes, like Zack Smith, yet they didn't care when he was moved.

Personally, I didn't whip Boro - I thought he was a legit bottom pair and wasn't an AHL D as some proclaimed, but I won't care much if he's not retained. It doesn't matter much who the 6th-7th D is. Like Jaros can fill in just the same.

Also from what I understand this would be the team moving on from him, not Boro jumping ship. But who knows.

I will concede here because I don’t have my pulse on Sens fans at all. But I will say, the point isn’t about Boro’s skill. This is yet another example of a player that may decide to leave Ottawa the first chance they get. This isn’t a star, this is a homegrown, cheap, heart and soul, soldier and serviceable player that has seen enough of Ottawa most likely. It’s been going on so long now, it is just pathetic. If there was one guy that may have stayed, it was Boro. Unless Melnyk goes, there is zero reason to think that any player unrestricted player will ever choose Ottawa unless this is their last shot to play in the NHL. That is fairly obvious and I’ve been saying it for years.

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Lagoon wrote:
Ev wrote:
Lagoon wrote:
Ev wrote:Boro won't be back, but it doesn't really matter. I never minded him on the ice, but it's pretty funny that he was a whipping boy for years yet all of a sudden people are so sad at the thought of him leaving. We have a lot of D options and free agency to come.  

I think those two groups are different groups of fans. The ones that whipped Boro are still not caring. The ones that recognized the value of Boro’s play and his contract are the ones that are sad now. Just another example of the someone jumping ship and not willing to keep playing for Melnyk when they have a chance to go elsewhere.

They aren't two different groups. The same people who hated Boro for years (and attacked him and Ceci) have a done a complete 180 because of his social views. It's very strange. Many other players were great dudes, like Zack Smith, yet they didn't care when he was moved.

Personally, I didn't whip Boro - I thought he was a legit bottom pair and wasn't an AHL D as some proclaimed, but I won't care much if he's not retained. It doesn't matter much who the 6th-7th D is. Like Jaros can fill in just the same.

Also from what I understand this would be the team moving on from him, not Boro jumping ship. But who knows.

I will concede here because I don’t have my pulse on Sens fans at all. But I will say, the point isn’t about Boro’s skill. This is yet another example of a player that  may decide to leave Ottawa the first chance they get. This isn’t a star, this is a homegrown, cheap, heart and soul, soldier and serviceable player that has seen enough of Ottawa most likely. It’s been going on so long now, it is just pathetic. If there was one guy that may have stayed, it was Boro. Unless Melnyk goes, there is zero reason to think that any player unrestricted player will ever choose Ottawa unless this is their last shot to play in the NHL. That is fairly obvious and I’ve been saying it for years.

This isn't the case for Boro or even Pageau though. They would have (and Boro still can, to be fair) signed but the team decided it's better to move on. The others I agree with.

The Sens will have to trade for their players like they did with Turris, McArthur, Methot etc then re-sign them if they want to.

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Well, than you’ve got pro scouting issues, but we all know that with the Sens.

And then you‘ve got every single NTC has Ottawa as team #1 working against you. It’s pathetically laughable.

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Lagoon wrote:Well, than you’ve got pro scouting issues, but we all know that with the Sens.

And then you‘ve got every single NTC has Ottawa as team #1 working against you. It’s pathetically laughable.

I prefer to say laughably pathetic.

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I stand corrected.

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If he wants $3M+ on a multi-year deal on the open market he's not worth it.

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He'll be significant for another year or two and will disappear

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I agree. More than anything, it is more optics for other players around the league regarding how Ottawa is run. That’s the damaging part. But you can’t get lower than Ottawa’s reputation with players anyway. This means nothing actually. Just another stamp.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:If he wants $3M+ on a multi-year deal on the open market he's not worth it.

You think that's what Boro's asking for?

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Flo!  You're famous!

https://twitter.com/brian5or6/status/1300496914589380608

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tim1_2 wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:If he wants $3M+ on a multi-year deal on the open market he's not worth it.

You think that's what Boro's asking for?

2.2 or 2.25 is probably his next contract.

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Here's 1.8 x 3, take it or leave it

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We’ll see, but that’s not the way it works for legit NHL players. I think my number is much more likely.

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Some team lacking toughness is going to overspend.

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I think Boro would love term, so something like the aforementioned $1.8M x 3 seems likely to me.

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Yeah so he takes up a LHD spot meaning Brann, Wolanin, Reilly, Englund, Lajoie are all fighting for one spot.

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