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tim1_2


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Yeah, no one should get too fussed about who is on the opening night roster. There will be TONS of movement to and from the AHL this year.

PTFlea


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Fair enough.

Hockeyhero22000


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Sens Monday practice lines:

Tkachuk-White-Brown
Duclair-Tierney-Ryan
Ennis-Anisimov-Batherson
Chlapik-Pageau-Sabourin/Boedker

Chabot-Zaitsev
Brannstrom-Hainsey.
Borowiecki-Demelo
Goloubef

I kind of like the look of anisimov and Batherson

tim1_2

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Hockeyhero22000 wrote:Sens Monday practice lines:

Tkachuk-White-Brown
Duclair-Tierney-Ryan
Ennis-Anisimov-Batherson
Chlapik-Pageau-Sabourin/Boedker

Chabot-Zaitsev
Brannstrom-Hainsey.
Borowiecki-Demelo
Goloubef

I kind of like the look of anisimov and Batherson

It's so weird seeing Sens lines now when you think of the team we had on that Eastern Conference Finals run from a couple years ago. Who's left from that? Pageau, Borowiecki, and Ryan? Really? How things have changed.

That said, I like having Tkachuk, White, and Brannstrom getting primo minutes, so hopefully that happens.

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Interested to see what happens when balcers is back

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tim1_2 wrote:
Hockeyhero22000 wrote:Sens Monday practice lines:

Tkachuk-White-Brown
Duclair-Tierney-Ryan
Ennis-Anisimov-Batherson
Chlapik-Pageau-Sabourin/Boedker

Chabot-Zaitsev
Brannstrom-Hainsey.
Borowiecki-Demelo
Goloubef

I kind of like the look of anisimov and Batherson

It's so weird seeing Sens lines now when you think of the team we had on that Eastern Conference Finals run from a couple years ago.  Who's left from that?  Pageau, Borowiecki, and Ryan?  Really?  How things have changed.

That said, I like having Tkachuk, White, and Brannstrom getting primo minutes, so hopefully that happens.  

I like what they're doing with Batherson. Not giving him top-line responsibilities and playing with two guys who are out to prove it this year. I cam easily see Ryan and Bath changing throughout the year. And I'm interested in seeing how they use Pageau this season.

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One more sleep.


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tim1_2

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wprager wrote:One more sleep.

Yeah, good lord, let's get on with it already!

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I must say, Dorion handled things really well in terms of not only sending Brown down to the AHL, but then properly answering questions as to why he did it and that the organization really believes in him.

One day I dream of a Brown/Batherson line, but for now I'm happy to see that they're taking pride in developing players properly.

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PTFlea wrote:I must say, Dorion handled things really well in terms of not only sending Brown down to the AHL, but then properly answering questions as to why he did it and that the organization really believes in him.

One day I dream of a Brown/Batherson line, but for now I'm happy to see that they're taking pride in developing players properly.

10 mins on the fourth line where he is not a good fit vs 18-20 mins on the AHL top line to work on a few things. Makes complete sense to me.

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PTFlea wrote:I must say, Dorion handled things really well in terms of not only sending Brown down to the AHL, but then properly answering questions as to why he did it and that the organization really believes in him.

One day I dream of a Brown/Batherson line, but for now I'm happy to see that they're taking pride in developing players properly.

I think Brown is heading into "bust" territory. If he doesn't start putting up decent AHL #s pretty quickly, he's getting buried in the depth chart in a hurry.

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tim1_2 wrote:
PTFlea wrote:I must say, Dorion handled things really well in terms of not only sending Brown down to the AHL, but then properly answering questions as to why he did it and that the organization really believes in him.

One day I dream of a Brown/Batherson line, but for now I'm happy to see that they're taking pride in developing players properly.

I think Brown is heading into "bust" territory.  If he doesn't start putting up decent AHL #s pretty quickly, he's getting buried in the depth chart in a hurry.

Brown? I don't see who will bury him in depth personally. And 42 points in 56 AHL games in his first pro season, which was unfortunately mired with injury for Brown, is very solid IMO.

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PTFlea wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
PTFlea wrote:I must say, Dorion handled things really well in terms of not only sending Brown down to the AHL, but then properly answering questions as to why he did it and that the organization really believes in him.

One day I dream of a Brown/Batherson line, but for now I'm happy to see that they're taking pride in developing players properly.

I think Brown is heading into "bust" territory.  If he doesn't start putting up decent AHL #s pretty quickly, he's getting buried in the depth chart in a hurry.

Brown?  I don't see who will bury him in depth personally.  And 42 points in 56 AHL games in his first pro season, which was unfortunately mired with injury for Brown, is very solid IMO.

Yeah I don’t see how Brown is buried as we do not have a legit top line C prospect in the system. There could be a case made for Norris but he’s likely capped at 2C at best.

But he might bust. If he never finds that second gear and speed that’s needed at the NHL.
It’s still why I feel we lack an elite/star C prospect in the system. Picking number 2 would be great this year.

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Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
PTFlea wrote:I must say, Dorion handled things really well in terms of not only sending Brown down to the AHL, but then properly answering questions as to why he did it and that the organization really believes in him.

One day I dream of a Brown/Batherson line, but for now I'm happy to see that they're taking pride in developing players properly.

I think Brown is heading into "bust" territory.  If he doesn't start putting up decent AHL #s pretty quickly, he's getting buried in the depth chart in a hurry.

Brown?  I don't see who will bury him in depth personally.  And 42 points in 56 AHL games in his first pro season, which was unfortunately mired with injury for Brown, is very solid IMO.

Yeah I don’t see how Brown is buried as we do not have a legit top line C prospect in the system. There could be a case made for Norris but he’s likely capped at 2C at best.

But he might bust. If he never finds that second gear  and speed that’s needed at the NHL.
It’s still why I feel we lack an elite/star C prospect in the system. Picking number 2 would be great this year.

Brown is Spezza. Everyone was knocking Spezza for the exact same reasons. And if we're knocking Brown because of speed, look at Thornton. He put up 51 points last year. He's slow as molasses. He'll find his way into the lineup the second there is an injury if not he'll finish the year up here when Pageau/Tierney is traded. He's not suited for a bottom-six role and we're seeing in Toronto what fitting an offensive player into a checking role does. He will be fine. He may never put up 80 points, but 50-60 points on a second line isn't bad and that's his ceiling.

I agree that picking #2 is best case for Ottawa. Unless they're serious about moving Tkachuk to C. Then #1 all the way!

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White will also get hurt at some point this year. He's the best bet for Brown to crack the lineup. Sabourin will be used sparingly and injuries happen

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Quote: 50-60 points on a second line isn't bad and that's his ceiling

Umm, what? 6'6" with hands, moved and hockey IQ, and you think 50-60 points is his ceiling? Tierney put up 55!


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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
PTFlea wrote:I must say, Dorion handled things really well in terms of not only sending Brown down to the AHL, but then properly answering questions as to why he did it and that the organization really believes in him.

One day I dream of a Brown/Batherson line, but for now I'm happy to see that they're taking pride in developing players properly.

I think Brown is heading into "bust" territory.  If he doesn't start putting up decent AHL #s pretty quickly, he's getting buried in the depth chart in a hurry.

Brown?  I don't see who will bury him in depth personally.  And 42 points in 56 AHL games in his first pro season, which was unfortunately mired with injury for Brown, is very solid IMO.

Yeah I don’t see how Brown is buried as we do not have a legit top line C prospect in the system. There could be a case made for Norris but he’s likely capped at 2C at best.

But he might bust. If he never finds that second gear  and speed that’s needed at the NHL.
It’s still why I feel we lack an elite/star C prospect in the system. Picking number 2 would be great this year.

Brown is Spezza. Everyone was knocking Spezza for the exact same reasons. And if we're knocking Brown because of speed, look at Thornton. He put up 51 points last year. He's slow as molasses. He'll find his way into the lineup the second there is an injury if not he'll finish the year up here when Pageau/Tierney is traded. He's not suited for a bottom-six role and we're seeing in Toronto what fitting an offensive player into a checking role does. He will be fine. He may never put up 80 points, but 50-60 points on a second line isn't bad and that's his ceiling.

I agree that picking #2 is best case for Ottawa. Unless they're serious about moving Tkachuk to C. Then #1 all the way!

I disagree, speed counts more than it used to. Brown is gonna have to develop a lot more to reach Thornton. And he wouldn’t get the amount of respect Thornton does. If he doesn’t up his tempo and intensity he won’t last long on this team and will wind up getting traded when his value is down.

Again, I’m not saying he busts, I just think the distance he has to reach his ceiling is a lot bigger than Dorion is letting on. He’s just not showing that drive that all other rookies do when they are trying to make the team. Chlapik showed some he was ready in the pre-season. Brown did not.

I don’t see tkachuk getting moved to the C. He’s better suited as a hard Donkey winger.

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wprager wrote:Quote:  50-60 points on a second line isn't bad and that's his ceiling

Umm, what? 6'6" with hands, moved and hockey IQ, and you think 50-60 points is his ceiling? Tierney put up 55!

65 points? I had Brown as a 20 g 40 a type of guy. Ottawa gets a lot of scoring from the dmen and I don't expect that to change. He'll get a lot of PP points but not that many off the rush because of his speed.

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