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wprager


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Two more sleeps until main camp.

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Apparently wolanin has been working on playing the right all summer according to boo boo

DefenceWinsChampionships


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So did Wiercioch, Cowen, and Phillips.

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It also sounds like Chabot-Zaitsev will be a thing

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:It also sounds like Chabot-Zaitsev will be a thing

Smith also said he may try Hainsey with Chabot. He seems to want to see how other options will work could help balance out the second line wolanin and demelo

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Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:It also sounds like Chabot-Zaitsev will be a thing

Smith also said he may try Hainsey with Chabot. He seems to want to see how other options will work could help balance out the second line wolanin and demelo

Yeah, he talked about basically every player getting a chance with chabot. Zaitsev will probably win out because he's a really poor player historically at stopping zone entrance and chabot is quite good at getting the puck back and out. Also, he's average at best in the neutral zone while chabot is probably in the upper echelon. So it'll come down to how to utilize zaitsev properly and what Smith wants out of him.

I read a detailed report of zaitsev yesterday and the prognosis is not great. Crap at zone entry defence, bad in neutral zone, loads of secondary assists, few primary, shot not used often, icing king.

I'll try to find it, but I dampened my spirit about him.

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I mean...then I think that Smith championed to get him and I hope to Diddle that he had a hidden plan for him.

https://theleafsnation.com/2017/05/04/the-nikita-zaitsev-contract-is-bad-and-the-leafs-will-probably-regret-signing-it/

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Yeah, I'll withhold final judgement until I see Zaitsev in action for a few weeks. Currently, it seems like we just got Ceci back on a longer term. Not great.

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I think you’ll see fairly early on how he isn’t Ceci. He’s certainly better than DeMelo

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I continue to hold out hope until I see him + he's assimilated into the system and lineup. Smith might want to undo the harness on him so he can gallop up and down the ice - in which case, I'm not sold on Chabot being his best suited partner, but I'm nervous at the stats that bear out that he's another Ceci. We'll see, I hope you're right Ev, I think you might be, but that's basically just optimism speaking.

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PTFlea wrote:
Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:It also sounds like Chabot-Zaitsev will be a thing

Smith also said he may try Hainsey with Chabot. He seems to want to see how other options will work could help balance out the second line wolanin and demelo

Yeah, he talked about basically every player getting a chance with chabot.  Zaitsev will probably win out because he's a really poor player historically at stopping zone entrance and chabot is quite good at getting the puck back and out.  Also, he's average at best in the neutral zone while chabot is probably in the upper echelon.  So it'll come down to how to utilize zaitsev properly and what Smith wants out of him.

I read a detailed report of zaitsev yesterday and the prognosis is not great.  Crap at zone entry defence, bad in neutral zone, loads of secondary assists, few primary, shot not used often, icing king.

I'll try to find it, but I dampened my spirit about him.


I've heard the same thing. Have not seen an article on this. But seriously - is he any worse than Ceci?

I watched a Gardiner highlight package the other day. Man is Toronto going to be disappointed if they think Ceci can replace him on the right. I remember at one point Gardiner was being considered the Leafs' Karlsson equivalent.

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I also think the Leafs gameplan was to outscore everybody. I don't think they paid as much attention to the d-zone as they probably should have.

Plus if Zaitsev decides to bolt to the KHL, it wouldn't be a huge loss for the Sens.

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Dorion also confirmed in that interview that Brannstrom prefers the right side. Maybe the Sens rather have him on the left side but maybe Brannstrom slides up faster on the right. Or so he hopes.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:It also sounds like Chabot-Zaitsev will be a thing

Smith also said he may try Hainsey with Chabot. He seems to want to see how other options will work could help balance out the second line wolanin and demelo

Yeah, he talked about basically every player getting a chance with chabot.  Zaitsev will probably win out because he's a really poor player historically at stopping zone entrance and chabot is quite good at getting the puck back and out.  Also, he's average at best in the neutral zone while chabot is probably in the upper echelon.  So it'll come down to how to utilize zaitsev properly and what Smith wants out of him.

I read a detailed report of zaitsev yesterday and the prognosis is not great.  Crap at zone entry defence, bad in neutral zone, loads of secondary assists, few primary, shot not used often, icing king.

I'll try to find it, but I dampened my spirit about him.


I've heard the same thing. Have not seen an article on this. But seriously - is he any worse than Ceci?

I watched a Gardiner highlight package the other day. Man is Toronto going to be disappointed if they think Ceci can replace him on the right. I remember at one point Gardiner was being considered the Leafs' Karlsson equivalent.

That guy in the article I posted said Gardiner has a lot better defence than people make out. I don't really buy it 100%, but he's certainly better than Ceci. Was 4 million really ever on the table, or did Gardiner think he could get more?

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Flo The Action wrote:Dorion also confirmed in that interview  that Brannstrom prefers the right side. Maybe the Sens rather have him on the left side but maybe Brannstrom slides up faster on the right. Or so he hopes.

Dorion's such a windbag though, I don't believe a word he says anymore. Smug little smile that I'd love to erase from his mouth. Boxing

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I heard Brannstrom interviewed on the Home Tour or whatever it's called saying he prefers the left. Maybe he knows there are more opportunities playing on the right - especially on the last pairing with someone like Hainsey. I just don't see where Wolanin and Brann both fit in with Boro, Chabot, Hainsey, Zaitsev, De Melo all on one-ways and Jaros having a full NHL season under his belt.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I heard Brannstrom interviewed on the Home Tour or whatever it's called saying he prefers the left. Maybe he knows there are more opportunities playing on the right - especially on the last pairing with someone like Hainsey. I just don't see where Wolanin and Brann both fit in with Boro, Chabot, Hainsey, Zaitsev, De Melo all on one-ways and Jaros having a full NHL season under his belt.

Yeah, there's no room until there are injuries and he needs some time in the AHL IMO. He had what would be considered a really strong 50 games in the AHL last season, but it certainly wouldn't hurt him to get another 30 under his belt after his injury last year.

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PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:Dorion also confirmed in that interview  that Brannstrom prefers the right side. Maybe the Sens rather have him on the left side but maybe Brannstrom slides up faster on the right. Or so he hopes.

Dorion's such a windbag though, I don't believe a word he says anymore.  Smug little smile that I'd love to erase from his mouth.  Boxing

Well I heard Brannstrom say the same thing though. So I wonder if there’s a point where they might try that. Could there be a world where we have a Chabot - Brannstrom pairing one day?

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