Lebreton Flats Redevelopment

wprager wrote:http://lebretonreimagined.ca

Can any one explain to me the bilingual (sort-of) aspect of their presentation?  I know enough French to see that the English parts did not cover everything that was spoken in French.  While French being prominent may be a law in Quebec, we are not in Quebec.  I have a problem with bilingual presentations in general because they double the time it takes.  However in a video where the talking rarely needs to be wall-to-wall they easily had the time to have everything narrated in both official languages.  Alternatively they could have had two videos -- one in each language.  What I find very odd is that they chose to do this approach where it felt like a 80/20 split.

TheAvatar wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:So the DevCorp group said that if they win the bid they are willing to discuss terms with the Senators about letting them build/own the arena.

This is impossible.  The NCC or the the City can't possibly go forth with the DevCorp bid under the assumption that the Sens and them will just be able to work something out.  Makes.  Zero.  Sense.  Does.  Not.  Compute.

The NCC and Devcore might be on the same page in that neither cares about the rink a whole lot.

Maybe we'll now refer to them as the Cornwall Senators ... plenty  of room for a rink by the st-lawrence river

SeawaySensFan wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:So the DevCorp group said that if they win the bid they are willing to discuss terms with the Senators about letting them build/own the arena.

This is impossible.  The NCC or the the City can't possibly go forth with the DevCorp bid under the assumption that the Sens and them will just be able to work something out.  Makes.  Zero.  Sense.  Does.  Not.  Compute.

The NCC and Devcore might be on the same page in that neither cares about the rink a whole lot.

Maybe we'll now refer to them as the Cornwall Senators ... plenty  of room for a rink by the st-lawrence river

If I won Powerball the shovels would already be in the ground and the competition would be on for the title of "Official Pizza of the Cornwall Senators."

TheAvatar wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:So the DevCorp group said that if they win the bid they are willing to discuss terms with the Senators about letting them build/own the arena.

This is impossible.  The NCC or the the City can't possibly go forth with the DevCorp bid under the assumption that the Sens and them will just be able to work something out.  Makes.  Zero.  Sense.  Does.  Not.  Compute.

The NCC and Devcore might be on the same page in that neither cares about the rink a whole lot.

Maybe we'll now refer to them as the Cornwall Senators ... plenty  of room for a rink by the st-lawrence river

If I won Powerball the shovels would already be in the ground and the competition would be on for the title of "Official Pizza of the Cornwall Senators."

Unfortunate missed opportunity

DirtyDave wrote:

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:LRT doesn't serve the whole city.

Anyway, here's more on the Sens bid:

http://illuminationlebreton.ca/

You lost me on transit options.   LRT goes to both ends of the area.  The western end is where Melnyk's arena will go and that is where LRT and O-Train meet.

There is no LRT in the West.  Whose Koolaid have you been drinking?

LRt is going to Westboro

LOL you think that's West?  

We're not talking Kanata here. Nobody cares about Kanata.

Like I keep saying, that's where a lot of your season ticket holders live now.  My brother in law has been a season ticket holder for the last 20 years or longer.  He didn't renew this year because he's finding it a huge commitment in time just to go from Beaverbrook to the CTC.  Meanwhile the couch at home is very comfy and the HD broadcast is great (and just wait till they have 4K).  A lot of the ticket holders, like him, are getting older and their kids aren't taking over the tickets, either.  This move will just accelerate their decision.  

Look, I'm not saying the Sens are doomed if they move, not at all.  Just saying that transportation *will be* an issue because a lot of people will still want to come by car, because mass transit simply is not an option.  It's not like Ottawa downtown core has a lot of people -- most live out in Nepean/Barrhaven, Orleanse/Rockland and Kanata.  Sure, you'll get some new season ticket holders from Westboro, just not sure how many of those are hockey consumers to begin.  Guess we'll see.  I suppose if I really wanted I could drive to Barrhaven and take the train.  Actually, I'm probably moving to Barrhaven in the next 4-5 years anyway.

Transportation system for red blacks games works well.

I'm kind of surprised wants to move downtown. He'll be losing a ton of revenue related to parking at CTC. I'm not even joking here.

Ev wrote:How can anyone take dev core seriously when they put the molson branding on their brewseum without the permission of molson? Who does that?

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Ev wrote:How can anyone take dev core seriously when they put the molson branding on their brewseum without the permission of molson? Who does that?

Funny because Melnyk was supposed to be the nickel and dime bidder up against these financial heavy-hitters.

On a lesser note, they were also promoting a Farm Boy but they just have an "offer in on the site." And Ripley's are "aware of the project." Pie in the sky.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:So the DevCorp group said that if they win the bid they are willing to discuss terms with the Senators about letting them build/own the arena.

This is impossible.  The NCC or the the City can't possibly go forth with the DevCorp bid under the assumption that the Sens and them will just be able to work something out.  Makes.  Zero.  Sense.  Does.  Not.  Compute.

The NCC and Devcore might be on the same page in that neither cares about the rink a whole lot.

Maybe we'll now refer to them as the Cornwall Senators ... plenty  of room for a rink by the st-lawrence river

If I won Powerball the shovels would already be in the ground and the competition would be on for the title of "Official Pizza of the Cornwall Senators."

Unfortunate missed opportunity

Meh. Dung happens.

Anyone else want Melnyk to lose the bid as a sort of comeuppance for the whole Marshy thing?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:So the DevCorp group said that if they win the bid they are willing to discuss terms with the Senators about letting them build/own the arena.

This is impossible.  The NCC or the the City can't possibly go forth with the DevCorp bid under the assumption that the Sens and them will just be able to work something out.  Makes.  Zero.  Sense.  Does.  Not.  Compute.

The NCC and Devcore might be on the same page in that neither cares about the rink a whole lot.

Maybe we'll now refer to them as the Cornwall Senators ... plenty  of room for a rink by the st-lawrence river

If I won Powerball the shovels would already be in the ground and the competition would be on for the title of "Official Pizza of the Cornwall Senators."

Unfortunate missed opportunity

Meh. Dung happens.

Anyone else want Melnyk to lose the bid as a sort of comeuppance for the whole Marshy thing?

You know we all do I'm friend.  Just like the casino. It's all part of the friends of Marshy plan.

tim1_2 wrote:

http://www.tsn.ca/report-devcore-hopes-to-buy-senators-in-bid-1.431824

Michallica wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

http://www.tsn.ca/report-devcore-hopes-to-buy-senators-in-bid-1.431824

I'm all for it, just don't see melnyk giving up the reigns that easily.  Plus it would appear the NHL is on Melnyk's side as well.  

Just for Dung and giggles, if we take the current value of the senators (~400M), plus how much expansion franchise fees are worth (~500M), and defiance of melnyk to entertain the idea of selling, how much would devcore have to offer to get NHL/Melnyk's attention?

Michallica wrote:No for sure, I don't envision Euge selling unless his bid goes tits up or NCC chooses the other bid.  

I do think devcore will take away a big chunk of Euge's business even if melnyk decides not to sell and keep the team in Kanata.  I don't think there's anything preventing artists from performing in downtown as opposed to CTC.  Bigger part of it, I don't think devcore would be handcuffed to use capital tickets, they could just go to ticketmaster and that takes away a significant earning from the Euge.  

I agree, it would take about $600M to get the Euge's attention.  If someone were to offer $750M, I think melnyk would sell.  That includes CTC, the team, and capital tickets.