rooneypoo wrote: cas wrote:My friend Rooney: so idealistic
How often has the organization done what should be done? I think most of us posted realistic versions of the potential lineup. Would I prefer to keep FFS together? Yeah I would. But something tells me that when Murray calls line 1 "Spezza's line" and line 2 "Fisher's line" that the FFS line will be no more. I don't see how it can remain intact with 4 legitimate top-6 forwards and 3 borderline/emergent top-6 forwards
I personally didn't post what I thought they should do - I've done that in other threads. Instead I posted what I expected them to be. Does Heatley deserve top line minutes after all this bs? Probably not... Will he get top line minutes. Probably...
Also there seems to be a disconnect between your idea here and your theory about not booing him. If the logic behind the latter is to help (or not hinder) his trade value, wouldn't the same logic apply to putting him in the most favourable situations. Assuming he merits such treatment based on his on-ice play, I don't see how you can let this off-ice turmoil interfere.
No, I don't think so. He's still going to end up playing with one of Alfie, Spezza, or Kovalev. And guys like Fisher and Foligno will probably fill out that top six. This idea isn't about punishing or rewarding Heatley, it's about doing what's best for the team. Creating two formidable lines and making other teams choose which to send out their top D pair against is the scenario you want. They'd be creating space for and complementing each other -- 1A and 1B.
Put it this way: I wouldn't even consider for a second loading up one line with three of those big four. No way. Been there, done that, bought the souvenirs. Teams just send out a responsible centre and their top D pairing against you all night long. It hasn't worked for us for almost 2 years now. Even under Clouston, the 'CASH' line wasn't particularly effective. Time for change. The addition of Kovalev makes that a viable option now.
Yeah I don't disagree. I'm just not used to the Sens putting out logical line combinations... There are far fewer weak spots on the team going into this season and the players that have come in and solidified spots (Winchester, Ruutu, Foligno, Shannon, Kovalev) are far more versatile than those they replaced.
Personally, I would like to see some experimentation done to see if we could keep the FFS line together. If not, Jordo's lines look great - with the notable exception that Winchester will be on this team and there isn't a single doubt about that. Believing otherwise is faulty.... If it comes to Smith, Winchester, and Bass for that 12th spot, Winchester gets it. Not a question, here.
As for lines with FFS together, it would require two of Kelly, Winchester, Ruutu, Neil, Smith, Bass, and Donovan to fill out the top two lines - the most likely being Kelly and Winchester. Put Heatley and Spezza on different lines (which is a must if you want to split the 4 into duos) and Kovalev and Alfie on the right wing on either of the first two lines; two possibilities look like this:
Winchester-Spezza-Alfie/Kovie
Heatley-Kelly-Alfie/Kovie
or
Kelly-Spezza-Alfie/Kovie
Heatley-Winchester-Alfie/Kovie
I would be inclined to go with option 1 given the success the trio (with Alfie) had during Spezza, Fisher, and Vermette's injuries 2 years ago.
It also gets Donovan out of the top-12 and gives one of Bass or Smith the opportunity to fill the 4th line centre role. I agree Smith has the edge.