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Trade Bonanza 2011! Speculation, Rumours, the Works!

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Murray had been talking to Chiarelli about "other things" when The Mayor decided to ask about Kelly.

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TheAvatar wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
TheAvatar wrote:I'm with you on that one. can't puzzle it out.

Looks like to me this management has said, "Spezza, or the old core." And Spezza won out.

Open season on Neil & Phillips now, for sure.
If the right offer came in for Spezza, I wouldn't be shocked to see him dealt. But the right offer likely won't come.


I've long said Spezza isn't a guy you build around, & I really wish we weren't actively trying to do so, but I don't want to open up that can of worms tonight.

Spezza being moved tonight would have caught me less off guard than this. I thought Kelly was here for the long haul for sure, especially after getting a 'A', what, 4 days ago?

I think that's over-simplifying. I can't see it being an either or choice.

I don't know how it's not.

Who was OTT's veteran core at the start of the season? Alfie, Spezza, Fisher, Phillips, Kelly, & Neil. If you're shipping out everyone but Spezza & Alfie (& and Alfie is too sacred to even touch), which looks like it's happening, then clearly you're saying, "Spezza is the guy we build around," no?

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rooneypoo wrote:
TheAvatar wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
TheAvatar wrote:I'm with you on that one. can't puzzle it out.

Looks like to me this management has said, "Spezza, or the old core." And Spezza won out.

Open season on Neil & Phillips now, for sure.
If the right offer came in for Spezza, I wouldn't be shocked to see him dealt. But the right offer likely won't come.


I've long said Spezza isn't a guy you build around, & I really wish we weren't actively trying to do so, but I don't want to open up that can of worms tonight.

Spezza being moved tonight would have caught me less off guard than this. I thought Kelly was here for the long haul for sure, especially after getting a 'A', what, 4 days ago?

I think that's over-simplifying. I can't see it being an either or choice.

I don't know how it's not.

Who was OTT's veteran core at the start of the season? Alfie, Spezza, Fisher, Phillips, Kelly, & Neil. If you're shipping out everyone but Spezza & Alfie (& and Alfie is too sacred to even touch), which looks like it's happening, then clearly you're saying, "Spezza is the guy we build around," no?
Or he was unmovable with the 7M cap hit attached.

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Oglethorpe wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:

I don't know how it's not.

Who was OTT's veteran core at the start of the season? Alfie, Spezza, Fisher, Phillips, Kelly, & Neil. If you're shipping out everyone but Spezza & Alfie (& and Alfie is too sacred to even touch), which looks like it's happening, then clearly you're saying, "Spezza is the guy we build around," no?
Or he was unmovable with the 7M cap hit attached.

If that's the case, we're going to be paying for one bad signing for a long time to come.

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Wow, Bogosian officially asked out of Atlanta...there's where Toronto's 1st is going. Boy, would I ever love a piece of him here - and a Sens fan too.

Neil + Boston 2nd round pick + Gryba/Wideman/Petersson

for

Bogosian

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Or Neil + Phillips + Ottawa 3rd round for Leblanc?

Dare to dream...(not that I want to trade Neil).

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SpezDispenser wrote:Wow, Bogosian officially asked out of Atlanta...there's where Toronto's 1st is going. Boy, would I ever love a piece of him here - and a Sens fan too.

Neil + Boston 2nd round pick + Gryba/Wideman/Petersson

for

Bogosian

Do you mean the first that BOS holds (TOR's originally), or the 1st that TOR just acquired (PHI's)?

Bogosian being available is very intriguing. ATL is a potentially playoff bound team, too...

Phillips + 2nd + mid-tier prospect?

That's a deal I could sign off on. Helps ATL now, helps replenish their system, too, to soften the blow.

And then OTT ends up with the DET-esque D for years to come. Nod

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rooneypoo wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Wow, Bogosian officially asked out of Atlanta...there's where Toronto's 1st is going. Boy, would I ever love a piece of him here - and a Sens fan too.

Neil + Boston 2nd round pick + Gryba/Wideman/Petersson

for

Bogosian

Do you mean the first that BOS holds (TOR's originally), or the 1st that TOR just acquired (PHI's)?

Bogosian being available is very intriguing. ATL is a potentially playoff bound team, too...

Phillips + 2nd + mid-tier prospect?

That's a deal I could sign off on. Helps ATL now, helps replenish their system, too, to soften the blow.

And then OTT ends up with the DET-esque D for years to come. Nod

No, I think it's gonna be Toronto's 1st - held by Boston. I think they're about to flip it over to Atlanta with someone else to get him. Mark Stuart's name has come up a lot, Stuart + Toronto's 1st for Bogo sounds about right.

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Do you really think Chris would sign off on a deal to ATL...

THen again, he has always been a loyal guy and maybe just maybe he sees how this deal would help Ottawa long term and agree to it (assuming it ever were to happen).

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22_4_ever wrote:Do you really think Chris would sign off on a deal to ATL...

THen again, he has always been a loyal guy and maybe just maybe he sees how this deal would help Ottawa long term and agree to it (assuming it ever were to happen).

Neil? He doesn't have a NTC.

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No one even dream about Bogosian, the price will be high. Too high for us as a rebuilding/re-tooling, whatever the Diddle we're doing.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
22_4_ever wrote:Do you really think Chris would sign off on a deal to ATL...

THen again, he has always been a loyal guy and maybe just maybe he sees how this deal would help Ottawa long term and agree to it (assuming it ever were to happen).

Neil? He doesn't have a NTC.

Phillips, from my speculative post, above.

22_4_ever

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SpezDispenser wrote:
22_4_ever wrote:Do you really think Chris would sign off on a deal to ATL...

THen again, he has always been a loyal guy and maybe just maybe he sees how this deal would help Ottawa long term and agree to it (assuming it ever were to happen).

Neil? He doesn't have a NTC.
Phillips...I don't see him waiving to ATL, just commenting on Rooneypoo's trade scenario.

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rooneypoo wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
22_4_ever wrote:Do you really think Chris would sign off on a deal to ATL...

THen again, he has always been a loyal guy and maybe just maybe he sees how this deal would help Ottawa long term and agree to it (assuming it ever were to happen).

Neil? He doesn't have a NTC.

Phillips, from my speculative post, above.

Hmmm, I think the Thrashers would be looking for more than that personally. Hard to gauge, easy to lose this battle though when Boston brings Toronto's 1st into it.

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So Chris Kelly gets to play here on Friday haha. That's got to be odd.

Flo The Action

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SpezDispenser wrote:Wow, Bogosian officially asked out of Atlanta...there's where Toronto's 1st is going. Boy, would I ever love a piece of him here - and a Sens fan too.

Neil + Boston 2nd round pick + Gryba/Wideman/Petersson

for

Bogosian
that's a steal if we do that. atlanta doesn't pull that trigger.

Flo The Action

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if we want bogosian it's gonna cost us neil + rundblad + a pick to start with

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Flo The Action wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Wow, Bogosian officially asked out of Atlanta...there's where Toronto's 1st is going. Boy, would I ever love a piece of him here - and a Sens fan too.

Neil + Boston 2nd round pick + Gryba/Wideman/Petersson

for

Bogosian
that's a steal if we do that. atlanta doesn't pull that trigger.

Agreed. If Boston parts with the Leafs pick, they could easily draft Dougie Hamilton or Duncan Siemens to replace Bogosian. If don't think Bogosian is going anywhere for a package of pieces. They'll be looking for quality.

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