The Needle and the Damage Done: Misconceptions about GMHockey

Today was one of the first days where I've been duped. 100% screwed over by some apparent pathological liar at HFBoards.

Why does this matter? Well, it probably doesn't to be perfectly honest, but I feel I probably should clear the air.

What we do here at GMHockey is talk...hockey. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Most people can't handle that kind of commitment, but there are at least 50 members who can - and do. What happened today, was an over-zealousness to get new info out to those people - and also to get more members to chime in and actually post something.

Nine times out of ten, I'll preface a rumour by adding in the link. Today, I didn't. Hilarity ensued and to be honest, most of us had dismissed the Chicago rumour pretty damn quickly. But then, it still wasted a lot of our time. So for that, I absolutely apologize. Lesson learned: always include the link, always include the source.

Which brings me to the next topic: We are not a rumour based site.

And if you think we are, that sucks for you, really. There's nothing about me Cronie and Clutch that would lead anyone to believe that. What we love is hockey talk - and here, that's what you'll get. However, from time to time, I get really nice pieces of info. Pieces that I trust from people that I know - albeit only via the Internet - but still, they provide what they hear because they like this site - and they know me through Buzz (when I used to post there all the time) and HF (same, but I still post there from time to time). When this happens, I'll tell you that it's a rumour that I'm hearing.

Cronie's actually the one with the best contacts I would say. He seems to pull some amazing stuff out of his 'sources' and sometimes he shares, sometimes he feels it's too risky to share. I always try to persuade him to share, because, as I've said, this is a site about hockey talk, not rumours. Give us something to talk about!

Once again though, I apologize for the 9 pages of what turned out to be utter non-sense from a guy at HF who I hope gets banned for a while (I think he will). I need to remember that members like Neely, SF71, SSF, Cronie, Clutch, Shabbs, GWTM, Lucky Day (Hemlock), Smash, Cas, Prager, Dave etc. etc. all know what it is I try to get - info. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This is one of the times it didn't.

So there...that's what I have to say. If you want rumours, go to HockeyBuzz. If you want second hand rumours - and most importantly members who are willing to comb the earth for information for you - then come here. Or go to both. We'd prefer you didn't, but we don't make any money, so you can do as you wish. We just like having people online all the time so we have someone to talk to. :^^^^:

Are we allowed to discuss rumours though?

Let's say for example a hack like EJ Hradek hreported that Dany Heatley demanded a trade absent a confirmation from hrespected media outlets. Could we discuss that?

Also, could we speculate about the draft in Montreal?

woo hoo, i get mentioned

in all seriousness, we appreciate what you guys do. everyone slips sometimes, so just let it be swept under the carpet.

I can't relate, I can only try to understand... I'm never wrong.

SpezDispenser wrote:
Nine times out of ten, I'll preface a rumour by adding in the link. Today, I didn't. Hilarity ensued and to be honest, most of us had dismissed the Chicago rumour pretty damn quickly. But then, it still wasted a lot of our time. So for that, I absolutely apologize. Lesson learned: always include the link, always include the source.

No apology's needed.

No one is being forced to be here on this site. If you expect legitimate information, then you should probably just wait for official news and official statements. If you just want to talk hockey and get some different pov's to broaden your understanding of the game, than this site is a great place to be.

Rumours come and go, but they are, by their very nature, unsubstantiated; placing too much trust in them is the only reason a person like notch would get upset at you for bringing it up.

cas wrote:No apology's needed.

No one is being forced to be here on this site. If you expect legitimate information, then you should probably just wait for official news and official statements. If you just want to talk hockey and get some different pov's to broaden your understanding of the game, than this site is a great place to be.

Rumours come and go, but they are, by their very nature, unsubstantiated; placing too much trust in them is the only reason a person like notch would get upset at you for bringing it up.

Well said. The hockey convos are what bring me here daily. I like rumours though - preferably not BS ones like today, but I have a soft spot for them. And not Eklund rumours, Diddle, my cat King could come up with better rumours than that.

SeawaySensFan wrote:Are we allowed to discuss rumours though?

Let's say for example a hack like EJ Hradek hreported that Dany Heatley demanded a trade absent a confirmation from hrespected media outlets. Could we discuss that?

:^^^^:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Also, could we speculate about the draft in Montreal?

Haven't we been doing that for the past 6 months? :n:

SpezDispenser wrote:

cas wrote:No apology's needed.

No one is being forced to be here on this site. If you expect legitimate information, then you should probably just wait for official news and official statements. If you just want to talk hockey and get some different pov's to broaden your understanding of the game, than this site is a great place to be.

Rumours come and go, but they are, by their very nature, unsubstantiated; placing too much trust in them is the only reason a person like notch would get upset at you for bringing it up.

Well said. The hockey convos are what bring me here daily. I like rumours though - preferably not BS ones like today, but I have a soft spot for them. And not Eklund rumours, Diddle, my cat King could come up with better rumours than that.

Come on SD, they're all bs :^^^^:

I take the 'where there's smoke there's fire' approach.

I don't know what thread I did it on, but I put a list of like...9 potential trades that I thought could happen. And I stand by those. I actually think one of those will go down.

As for 99% of rumours, they're nothing, but when you keep hearing the same thing over and over...well...there's probably something to it.

Don't sweat it SpezD...you got snookered...no big deal.

But you may be teased mercilessly for some time to come.

And that's all I was saying. I come hear for the latest, up to date and factual info.

When you posted that story, we and I all believed you because it was coming from you.

When it turned out to be bogus, you were pissed because you jumped the gun and gave us nothing more than Eklund quality material.

I called you out because I don't want this site to routinely have 8 page threads turn out to be like Eklund's site.

Take it as a compliment that someone who comes here every day for the latest factual Sens news called you out because of an admitted mistake on your part.

My post count should have nothing to do with this. I read every single post because I care what is going on. I am not connected to the Sens, I am just a die-hard fan. You guys are so good on here that by the time I read everything, there is nothing else for me to say because the great posters on here have covered every basis.

davetherave wrote:Don't sweat it SpezD...you got snookered...no big deal.

But you may be teased mercilessly for some time to come.

Yeah, I realize that.

notch4077 wrote:And that's all I was saying. I come hear for the latest, up to date and factual info.

When you posted that story, we and I all believed you because it was coming from you.

When it turned out to be bogus, you were pissed because you jumped the gun and gave us nothing more than Eklund quality material.

I called you out because I don't want this site to routinely have 8 page threads turn out to be like Eklund's site.

Take it as a compliment that someone who comes here every day for the latest factual Sens news called you out because of an admitted mistake on your part.

My post count should have nothing to do with this. I read every single post because I care what is going on. I am not connected to the Sens, I am just a die-hard fan. You guys are so good on here that by the time I read everything, there is nothing else for me to say because the great posters on here have covered every basis.

Fair enough Notch, I'm glad you said something, I didn't know what to think.

Again, I apologize and soon we'll all have news to report.

You read EVERY post? Holy Dung. That's kind of impressive.

I don't do that.

SpezDispenser: Don't worry about it. It was a case of being overly excited. You realized the "mistake" and nutted up and owned up to it. I personaly don't believe anything more needs to be said.