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Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

Post by hemlock on Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:10 pm

SensFan71 wrote:would Bryan colangelo be interested in cloning himself and letting the clone run the Jays?


Heh. He's not had much better success. I don't follow the Raptors much, but it seems he is retooling the team every damn offseason.

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

Post by SensFan71 on Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:12 pm

Zoolander wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:would Bryan colangelo be interested in cloning himself and letting the clone run the Jays?


Heh. He's not had much better success. I don't follow the Raptors much, but it seems he is retooling the team every damn offseason.


well the pundits are figuring he is going for it this year, I think he is basically trying to start the winning or he will be losing CB4, I am not a huge B-Ball fan either, but do pay attention while watching sports centre.

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

Post by hemlock on Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:14 pm

SensFan71 wrote:
Zoolander wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:would Bryan colangelo be interested in cloning himself and letting the clone run the Jays?


Heh. He's not had much better success. I don't follow the Raptors much, but it seems he is retooling the team every damn offseason.


well the pundits are figuring he is going for it this year, I think he is basically trying to start the winning or he will be losing CB4, I am not a huge B-Ball fan either, but do pay attention while watching sports centre.


Hasn't that been his plan for a couple of seasons now? They've brought in guys like Marion, O'Neal etc, and they don't seem to last. Too much turnover can't be good.

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

Post by SensFan71 on Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:17 pm

Zoolander wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
Zoolander wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:would Bryan colangelo be interested in cloning himself and letting the clone run the Jays?


Heh. He's not had much better success. I don't follow the Raptors much, but it seems he is retooling the team every damn offseason.


well the pundits are figuring he is going for it this year, I think he is basically trying to start the winning or he will be losing CB4, I am not a huge B-Ball fan either, but do pay attention while watching sports centre.


Hasn't that been his plan for a couple of seasons now? They've brought in guys like Marion, O'Neal etc, and they don't seem to last. Too much turnover can't be good.


apparently they figure this round of signings is going to work, which I am skeptical, another superstar will leave the team for greener pastures (Bosh) and the team will stink it up again.

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Post by hemlock on Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:19 pm

SensFan71 wrote:
Zoolander wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
Zoolander wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:would Bryan colangelo be interested in cloning himself and letting the clone run the Jays?


Heh. He's not had much better success. I don't follow the Raptors much, but it seems he is retooling the team every damn offseason.


well the pundits are figuring he is going for it this year, I think he is basically trying to start the winning or he will be losing CB4, I am not a huge B-Ball fan either, but do pay attention while watching sports centre.


Hasn't that been his plan for a couple of seasons now? They've brought in guys like Marion, O'Neal etc, and they don't seem to last. Too much turnover can't be good.


apparently they figure this round of signings is going to work, which I am skeptical, another superstar will leave the team for greener pastures (Bosh) and the team will stink it up again.


Well, let's hope they trade him before he walks for nothing. We can also hope the return is better than the steaming pile of excrement the Raptors got for VC.

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:21 pm

Zoolander wrote:Heh. He's not had much better success. I don't follow the Raptors much, but it seems he is retooling the team every damn offseason.


He did it right this time apparently. I don't follow B-ball, but people are excited.

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

Post by shabbs on Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:11 am

I see Ricciardi has set a "loose" deadline of July 28th for a Halladay trade...

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=285282

Madness.

Unless the trade is totally unbelievable and sets the Jays up for years to come (ie: the perfect trade) don't trade him, sign him LONG term, open up the wallet and build around him.

This "perfect trade" would have to be something along the lines of the Expos/Indians trade way back in 2002.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:47 am

shabbs wrote:I see Ricciardi has set a "loose" deadline of July 28th for a Halladay trade...

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=285282

Madness.

Unless the trade is totally unbelievable and sets the Jays up for years to come (ie: the perfect trade) don't trade him, sign him LONG term, open up the wallet and build around him.

This "perfect trade" would have to be something along the lines of the Expos/Indians trade way back in 2002.


Please build around him. The Jays are a young, talented team who ran into tremendous injuries (all to pitchers...not acceptable). Also, don't trade Rolen, he's my favourite Jay besides Halliday. Trade Rios for a bag of Dung, or Wells (ha ha).

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

Post by shabbs on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:56 am

Heh. Moving Wells and his monster contract ain't gonna be easy even without a cap... he's gotta start earning that moulah.

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

Post by SeawaySensFan on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:58 am

shabbs wrote:Heh. Moving Wells and his monster contract ain't gonna be easy even without a cap... he's gotta start earning that moulah.


I saw someone on TSN speculating the Jays would be moving just about everyone BUT Wells! Ahhhhh!

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Post by SpezDispenser on Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:13 am

SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Heh. Moving Wells and his monster contract ain't gonna be easy even without a cap... he's gotta start earning that moulah.


I saw someone on TSN speculating the Jays would be moving just about everyone BUT Wells! Ahhhhh!


Yeah, Wells is untradeable unfortunately. Too much money still owed, too long, too mediocre.

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

Post by shabbs on Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:56 pm

I heard an interview today with Ricciardi and he said that Roy has told the Jays he WILL test Free Agency.

This was news to me.

I was under the impression that Halladay was open to staying a Blue Jay.

Did I miss something?

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Post by SpezDispenser on Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:57 pm

shabbs wrote:I heard an interview today with Ricciardi and he said that Roy has told the Jays he WILL test Free Agency.

This was news to me.

I was under the impression that Halladay was open to staying a Blue Jay.

Did I miss something?


I heard the same. If he's going, I'd like to get something. That changes my tune a little.

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Post by shabbs on Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:58 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
shabbs wrote:I heard an interview today with Ricciardi and he said that Roy has told the Jays he WILL test Free Agency.

This was news to me.

I was under the impression that Halladay was open to staying a Blue Jay.

Did I miss something?


I heard the same. If he's going, I'd like to get something. That changes my tune a little.

I was quite surprised... but I agree, if he's told Jays management he's walking... well, trade him and get something.

Very puzzling though...

The interviewer just glossed over it and didn't question him...

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Post by Bass Destruction on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:12 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
Zoolander wrote:Heh. He's not had much better success. I don't follow the Raptors much, but it seems he is retooling the team every damn offseason.


He did it right this time apparently. I don't follow B-ball, but people are excited.


The trading away of O'Neill and Marion were both salary dumps. The signing of Turkoglu was solid though, he fits the raptors' style of play, which is more international. It's more difficult to defend as no other team in the NBA really plays it, so team's, in order to stop them need to adapt. They play a game where everyone can shoot, and they just distribute the ball really well. And with the emergence of Bargnani, the Raptors have two options down low who can also shoot the ball.

I barely watch basketball, but i just thoroughly impressed myself there. Although there is a chance that was all Dung.

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