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Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by N4L on Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:52 pm

hemlock wrote:
N4L wrote:Miller has a decent team in front of him... The Avs might as well be a Jr team let alone they have absolutely no defensive presence as a team what so ever. The Avs without Anderson wouldnt even be 500 and IMO would be fighting it out with Minnisota for the basement.


Fair enough, but where would the Sabres be with LaLeak between the pipes? Also, I'd say the Avs defence is better than you are giving them credit for.


Quincey is the best deal in the league, but that defense and their overall team defense isnt great. They are giving up like 35 plus shots a game... I dont think people truly understand how well Anderson is playing right now.

Comparisson, Hasek in 96, 97, 98, 99. That's how well he is playing.

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by hemlock on Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:53 pm

N4L wrote:
hemlock wrote:
N4L wrote:Miller has a decent team in front of him... The Avs might as well be a Jr team let alone they have absolutely no defensive presence as a team what so ever. The Avs without Anderson wouldnt even be 500 and IMO would be fighting it out with Minnisota for the basement.


Fair enough, but where would the Sabres be with LaLeak between the pipes? Also, I'd say the Avs defence is better than you are giving them credit for.


Quincey is the best deal in the league, but that defense and their overall team defense isnt great. They are giving up like 35 plus shots a game... I dont think people truly understand how well Anderson is playing right now.

Comparisson, Hasek in 96, 97, 98, 99. That's how well he is playing.


Over 13 games though. Let's talk after 82. Like I said, I just can't see him keeping it at this level.

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by N4L on Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:54 pm

He's a good goaltender but even Hasek didnt play 82 games, they neeed to get someone else in there to give the guy a break.

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by hemlock on Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:56 pm

N4L wrote:He's a good goaltender but even Hasek didnt play 82 games, they neeed to get someone else in there to give the guy a break.


Oh for sure, I meant 82 games as in after the season. This being his first full year as a starter, it remains to be seen how much Anderson will play, particularly if he's made the US team in Vancouver. I think 65 games would be a very good year for him in year one as a starter.

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by rooneypoo on Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:33 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:El Roonerino, you're not giving Anderson enough credit, he's really, really solid, technically and mentally. I feel great for him this year, I love that he's doing what he's been doing in the East on a larger scale - and I love that he's out of the East!


Look, I've seen him play a few games and I've been watching the stats, and it's all been impressive, for sure. But I've been playing fantasy hockey long enough to know this stuff won't last. Anderson is a former backup / first-time starter on a team playing way over its head. Mark my words: this is a party that just won't last.

Anyone remember when Miller went down 3-4 years ago and Biron won some 13 straight games, with great numbers? Yeah, I sold Biron towards the end of that run -- for a struggling Turco or Nabokov, can't remember which -- looked dumb for 2 weeks, and then a genius for the next 6 months. When it comes to hockey pools, trust history over feelings. That's why I've never draft Gaborik, for instance, EVER.


Not playing over his head dude. When he started playing last year in Florida they were a top 5 team in the league. He's been for real for a long time.

It's not liek he's getting 20 shots a night and getting it done either, he gets peppered night in and night out. He isnt a first time starter because he grabbed that job from Vokoun last year and was the true started in Florida. Now he just has the title.

Anderson is 100% the real deal and people need to start giving that guy respect. He has developed in The NHL over a long period now, paying his dues, learning the craft, so on... Colorado isnt that good of a team, Anderson is though.


Read it again, dude. I said the TEAM is playing over its head, not Anderson. Although I don't think Anderson will be able to keep this up, either -- in fact, I don't think any goalie in the league can do that.

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by SpezDispenser on Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:40 pm

SensFan71 wrote:
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hemlock wrote:
Ryan Miller. Stats wise, he's the cat's Donkey.




that's the 2nd time I have seen you post that picture, and it gets funnier each time I do


Laughing3 Every time I post it I crack up. Ahhhhh!

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by shabbs on Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:10 am

Well, the Avs have played 21 games and are still going strong... 13-5-3 and 2nd in the Western Conf behind San Jose.

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by beedub on Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:20 am

After having Budaj as their starter, Anderson has proved to be their lightning rod. Cudos to him, and this team. They deserve some recognition for yanking themselves out of mediocrity.

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by MurderOnIce on Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:17 pm

It also doesn't hurt having a top 3 pick. Seems that a lot of teams that draft in the top three start a turnaround based on the young injection of talent that can add to the lineup right away. NY is way better this year. Tampa is way better.

If you ride the wave backwards the teams with first overall picks look like the league's who's who of up-and-comers...

Chicago, St. Louis, Pittsburgh and Washinton.

Having super high picks helps the team turn around fast. Not to mention that high pick means higher picks in the latter rounds improving overall depth.

Colorado got Matt Duchene and Ryan O'Reilly this year who are two pretty solid players with great futures.

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by M_Christopher on Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:28 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
hemlock wrote:
Ryan Miller. Stats wise, he's the cat's Donkey.




that's the 2nd time I have seen you post that picture, and it gets funnier each time I do


Laughing3 Every time I post it I crack up. Ahhhhh!


Is there a background story to the cat picture?

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by shabbs on Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:33 pm

MurderOnIce wrote:It also doesn't hurt having a top 3 pick. Seems that a lot of teams that draft in the top three start a turnaround based on the young injection of talent that can add to the lineup right away. NY is way better this year. Tampa is way better.

If you ride the wave backwards the teams with first overall picks look like the league's who's who of up-and-comers...

Chicago, St. Louis, Pittsburgh and Washinton.

Having super high picks helps the team turn around fast. Not to mention that high pick means higher picks in the latter rounds improving overall depth.

Colorado got Matt Duchene and Ryan O'Reilly this year who are two pretty solid players with great futures.

Looks like Ryan O'Reilly is going to be very good. What a great grab by them.

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Re: Avalanche off to best start in franchise history

Post by marakh on Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:00 pm

Stastny hasn't even woken up yet. They're probably talking to Chicago as we speak. Might grab a big D soon to solidify the roster.

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